The same applies to age, gender, gender identity, sexuality, hair colour, health, political persuasion, religious persuasion...The law does not prevent someone from having a racist hiring policy; it prevents someone from having a provably racist hiring policy. There's lot of subtle ways to be racist that won't get you thrown in jail.
You cannot stop individuals from being prejudiced, You can try, and we do indeed try.
It's not bullshit. But you're right, being told you're oppressed doesn't mean you don't try to improve your life. That's why some black people succeed, despite being told by those in positions of influence that they are oppressed.Bullshit. They were told that because it was (and probably still is, though to a lesser extent) true. Further, being told that does not automatically keep someone from trying to improve your lot.
Well I've already mentioned intelligence, ability is what you have when you combine intelligence and motivation. opportunity... you know we disagree here. Black people have opportunity, the same as I did. I went to college, I didn't apply myself, so I failed. Who is telling black people they can't go to college? Variance? That's another way of saying luck, and that applies to everyone, not just black people.Hard work and motivation are not all that's needed to succeed. You also need ability, opportunity and variance.
It's not, but is it really happening? Or are these people going to prison for longer because their previous criminal history is more extensive?They're also more likely to be imprisoned, and for a longer time, than a white person for the same crime. Explain how that is fair.
You mentioned an individual Dad. If you mean Dads in general, then you can read back my comment and also assume Dads in general.Again, talking about individual 'Dads' is not relevant when discussing population level effects.
If Dad is in jail, chances are it's because Dad did something illegal. It's not because the state decided to oppress anyone.
I mean abandon identity politics. Yes, that includes pandering to minorities, convincing them they are victims so you can pretend you're there to help them.If by this you mean don't pander to minorities, then sure. But that's not going to solve the problem of why the minorities are doing worse than the majority group.
What I mean is that we need politicians who care more about what's good for the country than they do about votes.
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