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[TheSpoonald]

The patient wakes up in the ER and gets told 'you're still alive, pay your bill and gtfo

That doesn't happen

What actually happens is....

He can choose to stay and accept the treatment or he can choose to leave.

Who do you think runs the treatment programs??? Who gets rich from that?? You don't think the hospitals have thought up a direct pipeline from ER to rehab already??

BTW, exactly how effective is rehab?

[Poopadoop]

That doesn't happen

What actually happens is....


Who do you think runs the treatment programs??? Who gets rich from that?? You don't think the hospitals have thought up a direct pipeline from ER to rehab already??

BTW, exactly how effective is rehab?

Oh damn, been reading the wrong media again.

https://www.vox.com/future-perfect/2...-er-california

Despite an opioid crisis, most ERs don’t offer addiction treatment. California is changing that.

Please tell me what the truth is then.

[TheSpoonald]

Oh damn, been reading the wrong media again.

https://www.vox.com/future-perfect/2...-er-california

Ugh, cmon dude. This article might as well be a paid advertisement for buprenorphine. Basically here is a summary of the article: "Doctors agree that some people are tragically afflicted with this addiction. The Mexican cartels are making money off of them. But Doctors feel that if they can get them hooked on this other drug, then they'll make money instead"

Problem solved right??!!

That's not rehab. That's not treatment. It's just a shifty way to steal customers from the cartel without running afoul of the DEA.

A drug is a drug is a drug is a drug.

[Poopadoop]

Personally, given a choice I'd rather transition off of heroin using buprenorphine or methadone or whatever that I know is pure, using a needle I know is clean, than transition off of heroin with street drug that could have all kinds of shit cut into it and using a needle that may or may not have HepA or HepB or AIDS on it. Thanks.

[TheSpoonald]

Personally, given a choice I'd rather transition off of heroin using buprenorphine or methadone or whatever that I know is pure, using a needle I know is clean, than transition off of heroin with street drug that could have all kinds of shit cut into it and using a needle that may or may not have HepA or HepB or AIDS on it. Thanks.

This is really a silly debate. My personal opinion is that once someone touches heroin, for whatever reason, they're lost. As much as I think drugs are a major concern for America, and one of the driving factors that is undermining the middle class, I still wouldn't support even a dime of federal money appropriated to drug treatment.

I don't care about anyone who is currently an addict. I'm sorry that happened to them, but I'm also not dumb enough to try and fool myself into believing that they can ever be helped. They aren't. They're toast.

All I care about is preventing the next heroin addict. If we can do that, then problem of current addicts will just sort itself out.

[Poopadoop]

BTW, exactly how effective is rehab?

Imma gonna go out on a limb here and estimate that the recovery rate from addiction looks something like: rehab > no rehab.

[TheSpoonald]

rehab > no rehab.

They're actually roughly equal