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[TheSpoonald]

either criticize the methodology of this study, or accept the results.

Ok.

"You have the same number of crimes

^Bullshit. You never knew the number of crimes to begin with. You estimated it based on the size of population. Now that the size of population has changed, so has your estimate of the number of crimes. This is just an example of left-leaning academia confirmation biasing themselves into retardation. Let me know if the Yale guys explained how they are presuming to know the number of crimes committed by illegal aliens. Even you admitted no such data exists.

this new data has already halved what you thought the crime rate was.

Actually, no it didn't. And regardless of what the crime rate is numerically....I do know for sure that it's high enough for drug overdoses to cause a measurable downward effect on life expectancy. So you can play whatever mathematical magic you want. Even if I believed that the effect is only half as bad as I thought.....I still want the wall.

Dude. Whatever the number of crimes committed last year by illegal immigrants is not changed by our new understanding that there are more illegal immigrants than we thought there were last year.

Actually it does. You would be right if there was some mechanism by which we could know the citizenship of every offender. But we don't. SO we have to guess from population data. Then the population data changed. So we need a new guess.

It can change the analysis performed on last year's data

Finally you get it. It changes the analysis. Since we dont' know the number of crimes, we have to get it through analysis. And you just said the analysis changed. So the number of crimes changes.

We done on this, now?

God I hope so

Do you still think this problem of illegal immigration poses a problem to Americans?

Yeah

which subset you cull is irrelevant.

Only one subset is not protected by the constitution.

Do you think this is relevant?

Why wouldn't it be?

Can you walk me through that one?

Social programs for illegal alien led households (key descriptive phrase) cost $116B a year. Enough for 4 walls. And that doesn't include depressed wages. Are you really trying to tell me that an illegal border crossing is a victimless crime?

[Poopadoop]

Actually, no it didn't. And regardless of what the crime rate is numerically....I do know for sure that it's high enough for drug overdoses to cause a measurable downward effect on life expectancy. So you can play whatever mathematical magic you want. Even if I believed that the effect is only half as bad as I thought.....I still want the wall.

Back to blaming drugs on illegal aliens I see.

Social programs for illegal alien led households (key descriptive phrase) cost $116B a year. Enough for 4 walls. And that doesn't include depressed wages. Are you really trying to tell me that an illegal border crossing is a victimless crime?

Funny how you're so confident in this figure while admitting every other number related to illegal immigrants is virtually impossible to know.

[TheSpoonald]

Funny how you're so confident in this figure while admitting every other number related to illegal immigrants is virtually impossible to know.

Actually I didn't say "every" other number is impossible to know. Just the numbers where it's illegal to ask, like on arrests and census.

However, for stuff like medicaid, they can just tell by whether or not you have a social security number.