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    Quote Originally Posted by TheSpoonald View Post
    Do you really like Bernie? Or are you just nostalgic for the 2016 version of Bernie
    Is the 2016 version of Bernie different from the 2020 version? Or the 1977 version for that matter?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Sawyer View Post
    Is the 2016 version of Bernie different from the 2020 version? Or the 1977 version for that matter?
    I still wonder
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Sawyer View Post
    I still wonder
    Here you go. 2016 Bernie = Populist 2020 Bernie = Fake Woke

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheSpoonald View Post
    Here you go. 2016 Bernie = Populist 2020 Bernie = Fake Woke

    This whole video actually does not go about Bernie's positions on anything, and is somehow accusing him of identity politics?

    I couldn't believe Tucker Carlson (and by extension his viewers who gullibly drink up this garbage) could be this stupid. I mean, I know he was stupid, but not to this super saiyan level of stupidity.

    There is a whole wikipedia page solely dedicated to Bernie Sanders' policies. There are countless videos of him practicing what he has been preaching for literally forty years at least. His voting record is also in accordance with what he has been saying all this time. This is fact; you can't refute it as it is reality, and there are records of this shit everywhere to be found.

    In fact, CNN tries to spin his record on a daily basis, trying to make it seem he did different and is now a hypocrite. Turns out Trump was really onto something when he called CNN fake news. Them broken clocks sure are right twice a day.

    The problem and sad part is that the democratic establishment does practice identity politics. Which is why you have heard of names such as Buttigieg, Beto and Kamala. You know, people who you have no idea what their policies (nowhere to be found, likely they make shit up as they go along) are or their position on any subject is, but rather want you to vote for them because they are gay, a woman, or simply born-to-run (nvm losing to that turd Cruz).

    Obviously Bernie is all about substance in the entirety of his campaigning, no fluff at all, yet this fact completely and totally passes by Tucker Carlson. What an idiot.
    Last edited by Jack Sawyer; 05-01-2019 at 09:22 PM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Sawyer View Post
    This whole video actually does not go about Bernie's positions on anything,
    0:44

    You really couldn't wait a minute?
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheSpoonald View Post
    0:44

    You really couldn't wait a minute?
    I saw the whole thing.

    It's just misrepresentation, misinformation and general bullshit.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Sawyer View Post
    for literally forty years at least.
    What would you say is his signature accomplishment?

    And you can't use something he might do as president. Assume he dies in the next 20 minutes. It's likely. He's 432 years old. Very much on borrowed time.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheSpoonald View Post
    What would you say is his signature accomplishment?

    And you can't use something he might do as president. Assume he dies in the next 20 minutes. It's likely. He's 432 years old. Very much on borrowed time.
    Have you seen how 9/10 candidates in the democratic race now want to be labelled "progressive"? Pretty much all of them except Amy Klobuchar that I know of. I wonder why.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Sawyer View Post
    Have you seen how 9/10 candidates in the democratic race now want to be labelled "progressive"? Pretty much all of them except Amy Klobuchar that I know of. I wonder why.
    Have you seen how you totally didnt answer my question?
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheSpoonald View Post
    What would you say is his signature accomplishment?

    And you can't use something he might do as president. Assume he dies in the next 20 minutes. It's likely. He's 432 years old. Very much on borrowed time.
    Quote Originally Posted by TheSpoonald View Post
    Have you seen how you totally didnt answer my question?
    Oh, my bad.

    He ordered Jeff Bezos, the richest asshole in the world, to pay his motherfucking workers better. Bezos cucked and crumpled, kicking and screaming. Alexandria, a rookie on team Bernie, then forced Bezos bitch to take his ball and go home. And then everyone else was left wanting and furious because they couldn't suck Jeff's dick anymore in NY.


    Beautiful.
    Last edited by Jack Sawyer; 05-03-2019 at 12:28 AM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Sawyer View Post
    Bezos and AOC
    First of all, Bernie didn't "order" Bezos to do anything. He might have been the lead cheerleader and screaming the empty talking points the loudest, but Bezos does what he wants, ok?

    And just so you know....it was all ceremonial anyway. Most of the west coast states, where Amazon is, already have shitloads of state and city ordinances enforcing minimum wages that are $15+/hour. I doubt very much that any significant % of Amazon's workforce saw much of anything.

    Meanwhile, Amazon made $11B last year and paid no tax. Great job Bern!!!

    Wal-mart, Target, and many other large employers are crumpling to the lefty message of $15/hour. Bezos is just part of that trend. Bernie didn't do that.

    Furthermore, I asked you what the guy's signature accomplishment is. He's been a legislator for 600 years now and you're telling me that the best thing he ever did was scream at a billionaire indirectly through a TV camera???

    To be clear here....you're telling me that the best thing Bernie ever did actually has nothing to do with his job. You can't point to anything he's done in 8,000 years in his capacity as Senator that even matters.

    And AOC vs Amazon. LOL. Even DiBlasio thinks AOC was a retard on this. Here, let me walk you through it.

    Amazon: We'd like to build in NYC
    NYC: Ok, we'll charge you $30B in taxes
    Amazon: Well, we're also talking to Boston
    NYC: Whoa whoa whoa, don't go with them. Look, we'll cut you a break ok....$27B??
    Amazon: you got a deal

    AOC: SCREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEECH. But like uh....we can do something better with 3B than give it to amazon. like, we could, ya know, spend it on new yorkers, like uh yeah, ya know!!

    Amazon: we're not going anywhere near that crazy cunt


    Do you see what happened there? AOC thought she was standing up against the government spending $3B on tax breaks for amazon. But in reality she just cost her district 27B in tax revenue....PLUS thousands of jobs.

    there's no nuance there. She really is that dumb.

    It's really really weird that you bring *that* up as *bernie's* signature accomplishment.

    Holy fuck dude.......you need a new idol
    Last edited by TheSpoonald; 05-03-2019 at 08:18 AM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Sawyer View Post
    people who you have no idea what their policies (nowhere to be found, likely they make shit up as they go along)
    Actually.....Beto has something now. It was another $15 or $20T for climate change on top of the Green New Deal

    We might have to take over 2/3 of the middle east to pay for this shit
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Sawyer View Post
    Obviously Bernie is all about substance in the entirety of his campaigning, no fluff at all,
    Most of his criticisms of the establishment are spot on. But his solutions are buffoonery. Socialism doesn't fucking work. Even if you can tell me it kinda works somewhere, it won't work in America.

    completely and totally passes by Tucker Carlson. What an idiot
    You're not being fair to Tucker. First of all, it's not his job to pump Bernie's tires. Second of all, the segment wasn't about Bernie, it was about identity politics. Tucker shows how Bernie was basically forced at gunpoint to embrace the "woke" narrative if he wanted to cozy up to the DNC. That's just one part of the segment, but I used it to answer your question about why 2016 Bernie is different than 2020 Bernie.

    You seem to be perceiving the video as "Tucker's segment on Bernie". But it's not. And because of that perception you're probably watching it and saying "This guy won't talk about Bernie's policies because he's afraid!! So he's distracting with identity politics!!"

    The segment was about identity politics
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheSpoonald View Post
    You're not being fair to Tucker. First of all, it's not his job to pump Bernie's tires. Second of all, the segment wasn't about Bernie, it was about identity politics. Tucker shows how Bernie was basically forced at gunpoint to embrace the "woke" narrative if he wanted to cozy up to the DNC. That's just one part of the segment, but I used it to answer your question about why 2016 Bernie is different than 2020 Bernie.

    You seem to be perceiving the video as "Tucker's segment on Bernie". But it's not. And because of that perception you're probably watching it and saying "This guy won't talk about Bernie's policies because he's afraid!! So he's distracting with identity politics!!"

    The segment was about identity politics
    Thank you captain obvious, I kind of missed that. Maybe if I add a word to my answer it'll be clearer

    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Sawyer View Post
    This whole video actually does not go about Bernie's positions on anything, and is somehow accusing him of identity politics?

    I couldn't believe Tucker Carlson (and by extension his viewers who gullibly drink up this garbage) could be this stupid. I mean, I know he was stupid, but not to this super saiyan level of stupidity.

    There is a whole wikipedia page solely dedicated to Bernie Sanders' policies. There are countless videos of him practicing what he has been preaching for literally forty years at least. His voting record is also in accordance with what he has been saying all this time. This is fact; you can't refute it as it is reality, and there are records of this shit everywhere to be found.

    In fact, CNN tries to spin his record on a daily basis, trying to make it seem he did different and is now a hypocrite. Turns out Trump was really onto something when he called CNN fake news. Them broken clocks sure are right twice a day.

    The problem and sad part is that the democratic establishment does indeed practice identity politics. Which is why you have heard of names such as Buttigieg, Beto and Kamala. You know, people who you have no idea what their policies (nowhere to be found, likely they make shit up as they go along) are or their position on any subject is, but rather want you to vote for them because they are gay, a woman, or simply born-to-run (nvm losing to that turd Cruz).

    Obviously Bernie is all about substance in the entirety of his campaigning, no fluff at all, yet this fact completely and totally passes by Tucker Carlson. What an idiot.
    The democratic establishment sure as hell does it. But Bernie doesn't. No one who would vote Bernie would vote because of identity politics, but rather for his policy positions. Most other candidates in the race (Exceptions are Tulsi, Warren and Yang) I can't say the same.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Sawyer View Post
    The democratic establishment sure as hell does it. But Bernie doesn't. No one who would vote Bernie would vote because of identity politics, but rather for his policy positions.
    I think you're grossly underestimating how close a Bernie voter is to a Trump voter. You clearly missed that part of the video too Captain Obvious.

    I predict that a general-election version of Bernie sanders will have to play the IP angle quite hard to win the swing votes.

    If that makes you wanna take down your Bern poster, I know how you feel. I went through a similar thing when I grew up and learned how slimy Roger Clemens is.

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