**** Elections thread *****

[OngBonga]

And we are not members of the EU against our will either. They are not forcing us to stay.

Well done for ignoring the fact that the UK invading Wales and Scotland is distant history. So distant in fact the only non-King to have invaded Scotland was Cromwell in 1650. They've had nearly 400 years to leave if they want.

Our will may have changed since 2016.

We haven't left yet. So the first vote is ignored, the second vote matters? Is that democracy? If we leave, and then in 20 years we want back in, fair enough. 2016's democratic will has not been actioned yet. That simply has to happen.

Perfect. So you admit you're ok with being the conqueror but not the vanquished.

Are you aware than England has actually been successfully invaded? I don't hate the French because of the Norman invasion. I don't hate the Italians for the Romans. So no, you're being ridiculous.

Apparently it is my place to have a say in what the country I live in does.

I assume you voted. So you had your say.

But they didn't for the Scottish referendum. So maybe you should take that up with your MP if it makes you angry.

Scottish independence is fuck all to do with me. Why should I have a say on the matter?

With Scotland included the vote was 51.89% Leave. Excluding Scotland it would have been 53.10%. So yeah, it would go up < 1.5% without Scotland. Wow.

Like I say, only a complete moron would think that Scotland leaving the UK would still leave a debate on the matter in the rest of the UK.

Has it occurred to you that some people voted for reasons that weren't all about if/how/when Brexit happens? I appreciate that makes your little analysis a bit more complicated.

It doesn't matter. If they voted to leave, that's what they voted for. Whether they voted because they want us to leave, or because they thought they were signing up for free beer, is completely irrelevant. What they actually voted for was to leave the EU.

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Well done for ignoring the fact that the UK invading Wales and Scotland is distant history. So distant in fact the only non-King to have invaded Scotland was Cromwell in 1650. They've had nearly 400 years to leave if they want.

Have they been free to leave the whole time? I kinda doubt that.

At least you're learning some history though. Good for you.

We haven't left yet. So the first vote is ignored, the second vote matters?

That's usually what a second vote means yeah.

Is that democracy?

Voting seems pretty democratic to me yeah.

If we leave, and then in 20 years we want back in, fair enough. 2016's democratic will has not been actioned yet. That simply has to happen.

No, it doesn't have to happen. They've tried to action it and realized we'd be fucked if they did. Now people are beginning to realize how dumb the whole idea actually is.

I assume you voted. So you had your say.

And if there's another one I'll get another say. Why are you so worried about it? I thought Leave was gonna crush in a second referendum. Isn't that what your sophisticated analysis of the EU elections proved?

Scottish independence is fuck all to do with me. Why should I have a say on the matter?

Exactly.

Like I say, only a complete moron would think that Scotland leaving the UK would still leave a debate on the matter in the rest of the UK.

Well I actually crunched the numbers and showed you it didn't make much difference. But hey, you showed a coloured-in map, so I guess that trumps doing the whole adding and subtracting and dividing thing.