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    I'd be cool with healthcare-for-all by making much of what people want to buy/sell legal again, rather than by monopolizing it even further.
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    Quote Originally Posted by wufwugy View Post
    I'd be cool with healthcare-for-all by making much of what people want to buy/sell legal again, rather than by monopolizing it even further.
    A person's health is not something that makes sense to view as a good in a supply and demand chain. If you need a drug or treatment to live, the demand is there no matter the price. As a result you see americans getting charged 10x as much for insulin, because the free market is at work and that's what people are willing to pay before it's either cheaper to fly to Mexico or Canada to buy insulin. If they can't afford that, they ration insulin and die. Under a government regulated single payer system this doesn't happen.
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    Quote Originally Posted by oskar View Post
    A person's health is not something that makes sense to view as a good in a supply and demand chain. If you need a drug or treatment to live, the demand is there no matter the price. As a result you see americans getting charged 10x as much for insulin, because the free market is at work and that's what people are willing to pay before it's either cheaper to fly to Mexico or Canada to buy insulin. If they can't afford that, they ration insulin and die. Under a government regulated single payer system this doesn't happen.
    Would you be willing to rethink this view if you knew that economic theory and history have a different view?
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    Quote Originally Posted by wufwugy View Post
    Would you be willing to rethink this view if you knew that economic theory and history have a different view?
    Look, fat, you wanna do an IQ test? Let's do pushups together? C'mon man!

    No I wouldn't. Because I have had M4A from birth and it's not something I ever think about. If I'm sick I go to a hospital. Like <10% of my wage goes to my health insurance and I have everything covered from dental to hearing... literally anything I'd want to see a doctor for. The idea that private enterprise would improve that when I see exactly what it's doing to the US is laughable. You have no idea how ludicrous the idea of replacing the healthcare I have now with private healthcare is. If any politician here suggested anything like that, everyone would think it's a joke. It will never be on the table. It will never be anywhere near a table. It is clearly in the interest of everyone to have single payer health insurance for all.
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    Quote Originally Posted by oskar View Post
    No I wouldn't.
    Thank you for your candor.
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    Quote Originally Posted by oskar View Post
    Because I have had M4A from birth and it's not something I ever think about. If I'm sick I go to a hospital. Like <10% of my wage goes to my health insurance and I have everything covered from dental to hearing... literally anything I'd want to see a doctor for.
    Commie.
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    Quote Originally Posted by wufwugy View Post
    I'd be cool with healthcare-for-all by making much of what people want to buy/sell legal again, rather than by monopolizing it even further.
    M4A has to be a single payer system. You can't have a private company involved at any point. As long as you have insurance companies involved for whatever reason, they will lobby against it to carve out their own space to keep operating. That's why all the fake progressives ran on "M4A for all who want it" or "M4A but not for millionaires" because that is just a dogwhistle for insurance companies to mean: 'it won't be M4A" - it would be Obamacare 2.0.
    If everyone is under the same plan, then it is in everyone's best interest that it's a good healthcare plan. It saves a massive amount of administration, and you have to look no further than any of the the 31 out of 32 developed nations who have some version of it to see that it's cheaper while having everyone covered.
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