Something I should say more often

[OngBonga]

My hypothesis is this: blacks face racism from whites because they're black, whites face racism from blacks because they have been oppressing blacks.

This is a profoundly different viewpoint to mine cocco, and pretty much is the basis of our differences.

You're blaming the white race for the oppression of blacks. This for me is the problem that white people have right now. Some white people feel guilty about historical racism, others say "it's got fuck all to do with me". When you then say to someone "yes it has because you're white", that my friend is racism.

[CoccoBill]

You're blaming the white race for the oppression of blacks. This for me is the problem that white people have right now.

I don't care about whose fault anything is, I'm just interested in solutions, which is what I see BLM being about. But let's entertain your notionfor a sec, who should be responsible then? No one? The blacks? *Shrug*? "Let's just hope it goes away, someone else's problem" is exactly the reason we are in this situation.

Some white people feel guilty about historical racism, others say "it's got fuck all to do with me". When you then say to someone "yes it has because you're white", that my friend is racism.

Some white people probably feel guilty about it for good reasons, many probably have no direct reason to be, and shouldn't. This has nothing to do with someone's snowflakey feelings of victimization though, this is about fixing things, where *everyone* should feel the responsibility.