*** OFFICIAL BREXIT SUNLIT UPLANDS and #MEGA THREAD ***

[OngBonga]

I'd like to think that 1700s USA is a different world to 2000s UK. I really don't see England and Scotland ever going to war again. The only way there might be problems is if the UK powers (Westminster) refuse to allow the Scots to have a democratic say, and Scotland then decide to unilaterally leave the UK regardless. That would cause problems. But even then, it's a stretch to believe it would descend into war.

[MadMojoMonkey]

I'd like to think that 1700s USA is a different world to 2000s UK.

Of course, and I agree. I wasn't making a direct correlation. Only saying that your assertion that a people have the right to be self-governed is not a black and white issue. I stand by people's right to self-govern, but what constitutes a political "self" is not well-defined.

Is Taiwan an independent "self?" or is it an island state of China?
Depends who you ask, and the question is largely unresolved at this time.

I really don't see England and Scotland ever going to war again. The only way there might be problems is if the UK powers (Westminster) refuse to allow the Scots to have a democratic say, and Scotland then decide to unilaterally leave the UK regardless. That would cause problems. But even then, it's a stretch to believe it would descend into war.

You're probably right, but again, you're taking my allusion to the American Civil War too literally. It was only meant to illustrate the fuzziness of political selfhood during times of transition.