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    The courts get to decide what's legitimate, and they have decided those claims are not legitimate. It ends there. If you now want to say ok maybe Trump appointed judges, republican governors and a 6:3 conservative supreme court are all conspiring to rig the election for Biden, then you have to look at the claims if you don't want to look like a raving lunatic... and the claims are fucking retarded, so where do we go from here?
    You don't literally think anyone who has feefees that the government might be bad gets to violently take control of the capitol, do you? I guess you said you do, but I'm trying to steelman you here as best as I can.
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    Quote Originally Posted by oskar View Post
    The courts get to decide what's legitimate, and they have decided those claims are not legitimate. It ends there. If you now want to say ok maybe Trump appointed judges, republican governors and a 6:3 conservative supreme court are all conspiring to rig the election for Biden, then you have to look at the claims if you don't want to look like a raving lunatic... and the claims are fucking retarded, so where do we go from here?
    You don't literally think anyone who has feefees that the government might be bad gets to violently take control of the capitol, do you? I guess you said you do, but I'm trying to steelman you here as best as I can.

    Exactly.

    Moreover, the law has a standard that you are expected to act as a "reasonable person." That means you don't just believe everything you are told, but evaluate things with some degree of skepticism. No reasonable person thinks the election was rigged to give it to Biden.

    The criminals who illegally entered the Capitol building would be judged by law as criminals, plain and simple. They don't get to claim they sincerely believed an unreasonable conspiracy and that justifies why they broke the law. The only way around the reasonable person standard is to claim insanity. That may well apply to some of them, but being fooled because you're a koolaid swigger is not the same thing as having a mental illness that distorts your ability to assess reality.
    I just think we should suspend judgment on Boris until we have all the facts through an inquiry, police investigation, and parliamentary commission...then we should explode him.
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