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[Mr.Banana]

Just being a bunch of disorganized idiots who were essentially let in doesn't change their motives.

You just saw the video dude.....

They were yelling "information operation". they were there to take pictures of documents...and selfies.

If their "motives" were so nefarious....why did they send one pussy cop to defend the "sacredest place"

Look at that guy. I'll bet he's never been in a fight. He's got his hands in his pockets the whole time.

Headline: Hero cop fights off a terrorist insurrection with no hands!!!

[CoccoBill]

You just saw the video dude.....

They were yelling "information operation". they were there to take pictures of documents...and selfies.

I heard 1 guy out of the alleged half a million say that. Others have been yelling "lynch Mike Pence", some others carrying cable tie handcuffs, others hoisting nooses. There's information that there were Russian operatives also. There were clearly people with different motives.

Sidenote, from an information security standpoint the event was catastrophic. Unlocked workstations everywhere, none of the systems and networks can no longer be trusted, since they have to be assumed tampered. Wipe everything and start from scratch is the only solution.

If their "motives" were so nefarious....why did they send one pussy cop to defend the "sacredest place"

Look at that guy. I'll bet he's never been in a fight. He's got his hands in his pockets the whole time.

Headline: Hero cop fights off a terrorist insurrection with no hands!!!

Good question. The capitol police had asked the national guard for backup half a dozen times before the event, and denied every time. Hard to say if that's just stupidity or purposeful.

https://www.npr.org/2021/01/11/95554...=1610969972433
https://eu.usatoday.com/story/news/i...lp/4172327001/

[Mr.Banana]

I heard 1 guy out of the alleged half a million say that.

While everyone else *did* the thing that he said....

Others have been yelling "lynch Mike Pence",

2 out of 10 on the "ZOMG-O-Meter"

some others carrying cable tie handcuffs,

I've been watching closely and I've only heard of ONE guy who had cuffs. Someone I sort of trust told me she heard 3 people did. But still. You just told me there were half a million protesters. Let's say 3 guys had cuffs. What % is that?

BTW, search youtube for videos on go-bags, bug out bags, get-home bags, urban survival, doomsday prepping, bushcraft, etc. You will see it is overwhelmingly common for people to carry zip ties in their "survival kit". These aren't political channels. They're about survival skills. If you want to live, carry zipties. Many channels even specify to get the "handcuff" kind. Remember, they're prepping for situations, like a nuclear war, where governments aren't really effective, and city streets are warzones. The handcuff zip ties can still be used to secure things, build shelters, repair gear etc. I carry zipties in my car and any bag I carry. Not the handcuff kind but I could loop two together and voila! cuffs! I also carry duct tape, a knife, and clear plastic sheets. You know...serial killer stuff. But.....here's the dirty little secret that only I know...

Spoiler: Show

I'm not a serial killer

others hoisting nooses.

So? Threatening traitors with hanging is not a new concept. I agree it's not a great thing. I'll give it a 4 out of 10 ZOMG's. I'm more interested in why this matters more than all "kill trump" imagery that's been circulating around for the last 5 years.

There's information that there were Russian operatives also.

PFFFFFTTTTT. Yeah, ok. A russian operative doing what? What does the word "operative" mean? Was the guy wearing a badge that said "KGB"? How did this "information" person determine that this other person is an "operative" and that he's "russian"?

Seriously man, what was the "russian operative" doing? If you don't know, then I would challenge you to explain why this matters to you.

There were clearly people with different motives.

Doesn't sound like anyone was "incited" then.

Sidenote, from an information security standpoint the event was catastrophic.

If someone hacks your email account, he is guilty. If he is able to hack it because you left a sticky note with your password...you are also guilty. But frankly, I don't believe there is very much in that building that is deserving of privacy. Those people work for US. That information is OURS.

[CoccoBill]

I've been watching closely and I've only heard of ONE guy who had cuffs. Someone I sort of trust told me she heard 3 people did. But still. You just told me there were half a million protesters. Let's say 3 guys had cuffs. What % is that?

BTW, search youtube for videos on go-bags...

You gotta help me out here, what do these things have to do with each other? Yes, preppers might like to hoard these. Are you saying these 1-3 people went there carrying these, because they just wanted to be prepared for the collapse of civilization while they peacefully protest?

So? Threatening traitors with hanging is not a new concept. I agree it's not a great thing. I'll give it a 4 out of 10 ZOMG's. I'm more interested in why this matters more than all "kill trump" imagery that's been circulating around for the last 5 years.

I've seen a lot of memes and imagery about getting Trump out of the WH or inside bars, but can't say I recall many "kill Trump" ones. I'm sure there are some, and those are just as condemnable as any other death threats.

PFFFFFTTTTT. Yeah, ok. A russian operative doing what? What does the word "operative" mean? Was the guy wearing a badge that said "KGB"? How did this "information" person determine that this other person is an "operative" and that he's "russian"?

Seriously man, what was the "russian operative" doing? If you don't know, then I would challenge you to explain why this matters to you.

Why shouldn't it matter? If that had happened here and information came out that there was possibly a russian spy involved, it would matter a lot. I find it peculiar that I remember you deriding and condemning all occupy movements, except this one when it was done by "your side".

There were clearly people with different motives.

Doesn't sound like anyone was "incited" then.

Say what? Did you mean to say "Doesn't sound like everyone was "incited" then."?

If someone hacks your email account, he is guilty. If he is able to hack it because you left a sticky note with your password...you are also guilty. But frankly, I don't believe there is very much in that building that is deserving of privacy. Those people work for US. That information is OURS.

A lot of that information is CLASSIFIED. Remember Hillary's emails? I don't think your reaction to those was "PFFFFFTTTTT".

[Mr.Banana]

You gotta help me out here, what do these things have to do with each other? Yes, preppers might like to hoard these.

Ok. So remember that when you read media reports saying that people were found "having zip ties". Just because someone has zip ties, is not proof of anything nefarious. There was one widely circulated picture of a guy with cuffs. Not a good look. 6 out of 10 ZOMGs. My first thought when I saw that was "It's probably a cop who was embedded in the crowd". I think I've heard since that was not the case. But still, it's one guy.

Are you saying these 1-3 people went there carrying these, because they just wanted to be prepared for the collapse of civilization while they peacefully protest?

It's likely these people walk around all day every day prepared for the collapse of civilization.

I've seen a lot of memes and imagery about getting Trump out of the WH or inside bars, but can't say I recall many "kill Trump" ones.

Hollywood celebrities are notorious for this. When Trump was inaugurated, Madonna was allowed to pick up a microphone and tell a crowd "I have dreams of blowing up the white house!" Kathy Griffin posed with a bloody mannequin head. That's not a defense of what the capitol protesters were chanting. I'm just saying there is a strong historical precedent for assuming protest chants are hyperbole. I'm sure Mike Pence was never in any real danger. So...yawn.

Why shouldn't it matter?

Because you haven't said anything. Your citation is some vague source called "information". What information? From who? What does the information say? You claim the person was an "operative"? What does that mean? What is this russian person's official title? his occupation? his employer? Do we know this? What operation was the operative operating? You're tossing the phrase "russian operative" around like it means something. Why?

If Russian spies used this protest as a cover to infiltrate the US Capitol and steal secrets, and then one of those spies was caught red handed....somehow I think it would be a bigger story. Not to doubt "information", but I'm gonna wait and hear from another source.

I find it peculiar that I remember you deriding and condemning all occupy movements,

No. Not me. Talk about twisting words!!

A lot of that information is CLASSIFIED.

So? I sincerely would like an answer to that. So what if it's classified?

Remember Hillary's emails?

Yeah. Hillary got in hot water for leaving classified information in an unsecured place. That's a bad thing to do. And any Capitol workers or congresspeople who left classified information out in the open has also done a bad thing. that's my point. thank you.

I don't think your reaction to those was "PFFFFFTTTTT".

You can either not mention things like this, or you can take the time to find out what I actually think. Assuming I'm the kind of cookie-cutter conservative that they rant about on TYT is a mistake. It's really not helpful to the conversation

That's twice in one post where you completely invented an opinion and mapped it on to me just to argue.

[CoccoBill]

Because you haven't said anything. Your citation is some vague source called "information". What information? From who? What does the information say? You claim the person was an "operative"? What does that mean? What is this russian person's official title? his occupation? his employer? Do we know this? What operation was the operative operating? You're tossing the phrase "russian operative" around like it means something. Why?

If Russian spies used this protest as a cover to infiltrate the US Capitol and steal secrets, and then one of those spies was caught red handed....somehow I think it would be a bigger story. Not to doubt "information", but I'm gonna wait and hear from another source.

I don't have a clue, I wasn't there. All of that info about people there was just from what I've read. But don't you think that those are good questions to ask, meaning they should matter?

No. Not me. Talk about twisting words!!

Hm could have sworn you had opinions about occupy wallstreet, but can't find anything with a quick search. Ok, my bad.

So? I sincerely would like an answer to that. So what if it's classified?

Information is typically necessary to classify, if the disclosure of it can put national interests at risk. It can eg. reveal something about foreign policy, military operations or financials that in the wrong hands can cause damage. They don't classify just any information, it needs to have a legal or regulatory reason for doing so, so Ted Cruz's love letters to Trump or the senate lunch menu would not qualify.

Yeah. Hillary got in hot water for leaving classified information in an unsecured place. That's a bad thing to do. And any Capitol workers or congresspeople who left classified information out in the open has also done a bad thing. that's my point. thank you.

That's a quick turnaround from "I don't believe there is very much in that building that is deserving of privacy", but glad you agree. Ivanka did exactly the same didn't she.

I know that at least there were several unlocked workstations, where I can understand that locking it when an angry mob is running your way might not be everyone's first priority, but they should at least automatically lock after a couple minutes of inactivity. I guess it's possible they left just before the mob arrived.

You can either not mention things like this, or you can take the time to find out what I actually think. Assuming I'm the kind of cookie-cutter conservative that they rant about on TYT is a mistake. It's really not helpful to the conversation

That's twice in one post where you completely invented an opinion and mapped it on to me just to argue.

Well what was your reaction to Hillary's email scandal back in the day? "I don't believe there is very much in that server that is deserving of privacy"?

[Mr.Banana]

I don't have a clue, I wasn't there. All of that info about people there was just from what I've read.

Just some friendly advice, I think you should have a higher standard of evidence before you claim that the US Capitol was infiltrated by Russian spies.

They don't classify just any information,

I've worked for Department of Defense contractors. I've been trained in the procedures to protect classified information. This statement, and most of everything else you say about classified documents, is wrong. They classify a TON of shit. and by the way, they un-classify stuff all the time too.

it needs to have a legal or regulatory reason for doing so,

Not true at all. That standard is "I have the clearance to mark things classified, and I don't want anyone to see this". Anyone who can say that can magically "classify" anything he wants.

so Ted Cruz's love letters to Trump

Classified

or the senate lunch menu

Classified

That's a quick turnaround from "I don't believe there is very much in that building that is deserving of privacy",

No it's not.

Ivanka did exactly the same didn't she.

I don't know. Was there "information" about it?

Well what was your reaction to Hillary's email scandal back in the day?

Mostly indifferent. Technically she broke the rules. And if that could be used to take her down, that's fine. She's the most corrupt poltician I've ever seen in my lifetime, and that kind of stuff is fair game when you're running for national office. What I didn't like was how the FBI decided to be very flexible with their interpretation of the law in order to let her off the hook.

"I don't believe there is very much in that server that is deserving of privacy"?

Sure. close enough. I'll say that.