*** OFFICIAL BREXIT SUNLIT UPLANDS and #MEGA THREAD ***

[CoccoBill]

Just to reiterate, not too long ago masturbation (especially female) would have been on that same list of suspicious/dangerous/ungodly behaviors that need to be beaten out. The only reason I'm against kiddie porn is that someone needs to shoot that shit, if it were say animation, knock yourselves out.

[Poopadoop]

Just to reiterate, not too long ago masturbation (especially female) would have been on that same list of suspicious/dangerous/ungodly behaviors that need to be beaten out.

There's nothing wrong with wanking obv. But if someone tells a psychiatrist they wank while imagining themselves stabbing a woman that's a warning.

The only reason I'm against kiddie porn is that someone needs to shoot that shit, if it were say animation, knock yourselves out.

There are people who, for whatever reason, only get aroused by certain things that are out of bounds for the rest of us. It's not like they choose to be perverts; their only choice is between having a rich fantasy life and being a sex offender. Can't be a very good way to live. Still, if they commit crimes with victims somethign has to be done obv.

[OngBonga]

The guy is almost certainly going to use them to fuel his sexual fantasies.

Either that or exploring with cross dressing. But every man has sexual fantasies, some border on inappropriate. This is low level inappropriate behaviour. I'd say it's a lot less inappropriate than asking your mate's gf if she wants to fuck.

[Poopadoop]

Either that or exploring with cross dressing.

My intuition is cross-dressers don't normally see a nice pair of panties on a neighbor's clothesline and think "I wonder how I'd look in those? Maybe I'll nick them." They just buy their own.

But every man has sexual fantasies, some border on inappropriate. This is low level inappropriate behaviour. I'd say it's a lot less inappropriate than asking your mate's gf if she wants to fuck.

Like I said, you can't control what turns you on. But as long as it's just wanking there's no victim. When one starts to trespass on other's rights for their jollies, though, they're already crossing the line.

[OngBonga]

The truth is, the % of people in the UK who are morons is no different than in any other part of the world.

I wish I believed this. I think when we compare to USA, then sure. But not South Korea and Japan, and perhaps even Germany. I can reel off tons of countries who I think are socially superior to the British... Iceland, Norway, Sweden, Finland, New Zealand, Canada, Switzerland, tons of tiny countries like the Pacific islands, we're well down the list. I think 100 years ago, we wouldn't have been.

However, both AUS and NZ have western cultures

Australia is a poor example, due to seriously low density. Neighbouring cities are hundreds of miles apart, everyone already lives by the coast so people don't travel where they shouldn't, it's a very poor comparison. NZ is low density too, but my friend is there and the people there are more responsible than we are, it's largely why he chose NZ.

Finally, the vast majority of people here as elsewhere are not morons who just do what they want and don't give a shit about the rest of society, but they ARE sheep.

I think "sheep" and "morons" are analogous. I don't mean "moron" as in low IQ. I mean "moron" in lacking any common sense. If you're an adult and need others to set examples for you, you're a moron.

The real genius of the gov't here is in convincing a large number of people that it's the public's fault because the public are a bunch of morons and douchebags.

I don't think this opinion I hold is widely shared. Most people here think we're socially superior to most of the world, and equal to the rest. Most people in the UK think this is as good as it gets in the world. Nobody wants to have to ask themselves if perhaps they too are a moron. If you identify as the average person, then you very probably view the nation's social status through rose tinted glasses.

and only stopped following it when it became remarkably inconsistent and hypocritical.

Then they are a moron.

[Poopadoop]

Then they are a moron.

I guess we're using different definitions of moron, but at least we agree most people are sheep.

What I believe is a lot of people see the gov't as being like a parent figure. If someone from the gov't tells you not to smoke while they're chainsmoking Marlboroughs then I think most people interpret that as a more general "don't listen to our advice," even if a part of them knows it's good advice. If that makes sense.

[Poopadoop]

I also think it's a bit much to ask Joe Citizen to do a lot of independent research on coronavirus or pandemics in general and decide to stay locked down and keep their kids at home, while the gov't is telling them to go to restaurants and send their kids back to school.

There's also a special class of people who don't trust the gov't at all (for good or bad reasons) and get their pandemic advice (good or more often bad) from their Aunty Doris' facebook page. There is certainly a lot of misinformation out there. Maybe more of such people exist here than in other places, dunno.

[OngBonga]

I didn't say anything, just turned around and closed the door behind me.

This is different for the simple reason I stood there for longer than is acceptable. You did it exactly right, you turned around and walked off. I mean, who the fuck even gets sexual gratification from a woman having a piss? That's not something I want to see, bush or no bush. But bathtime is very much different.

You're right though, in my case she left the door open, it was my own house, the only reason I'm a naughty boy is because I didn't immediately turn around. I'm doubt it legally counts as voyeurism. But it definitely morally felt like voyeurism, because I liked what I saw and didn't immediately fuck off.

Edit: That image of her with her bush out and the look on her face is still burned into my brain 30 years later lol.

I had a friend who I quite fancied who left for Australia. The last time I ever saw her was on her goodbye party, after the pub, and she was squatting in the doorway of a bank, having a piss. That image still burned in my retinas.

[OngBonga]

To be fair, lots of people around the world think the BBC is a trusted source, but the rest of the world doesn't get the most blatant propaganda. They get World Service and all the quality Attenborough documentaries.