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  1. #1

    Default 2NL Pocket Jacks

    Hi Guys,

    villain is 29\29 over tiny sample (14 hands)

    Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $0.02 BB (6 handed) - Party-Poker Converter Tool from http://www.flopturnriver.com

    Hero (Button) ($0.97)
    SB ($2.14)
    MP ($1.95)
    UTG ($0.22)
    BB ($2.45)
    CO ($2)

    Preflop: Hero is Button with J, J
    1 fold, MP raises $0.04, 1 fold, Hero calls $0.04, SB calls $0.03, 1 fold

    Flop: ($0.14) 3, 5, 4 (3 players)
    SB checks, MP bets $0.14, Hero raises $0.28, 1 fold, MP raises $0.28, Hero ???

    Total pot: $0.70

    Should I have 3bet preflop? I only called his min raise....
    On the flop, are Jacks sttong enough to call his 4bet here? Looking at the flop he maybe played Ax suited which hit the flop to give him a straight, or has an overpair better than Jacks.

    Putting him on a tight range, equilab still gives me 57% equity - the trouble for me here is the villain is just completely unknown. He could have me crushed, or just be super aggressive to push me off the hand?

    What to do here?
  2. #2
    3betting or calling pre is probably fine, depends on villains tendencies and the people in the blinds though really. At this stake I'd probably call as he's more likely to spew postflop than he is preflop and no one in the blinds are likely to be aggressive enough to put us under any pressure.

    Raising the flop is awful though, what exactly are we trying to accomplish by doing so? I think the flop is a very easy flat.

    Out of interest what range did you give him to give yourself 57% equity. That seems pretty far off.
  3. #3
    Quote Originally Posted by ImSavy View Post
    3betting or calling pre is probably fine, depends on villains tendencies and the people in the blinds though really. At this stake I'd probably call as he's more likely to spew postflop than he is preflop and no one in the blinds are likely to be aggressive enough to put us under any pressure.

    Raising the flop is awful though, what exactly are we trying to accomplish by doing so? I think the flop is a very easy flat.

    Out of interest what range did you give him to give yourself 57% equity. That seems pretty far off.
    I must have bet the flop hoping to take the pot right there, as I didn't want a 2 to hit later streets, giving him a straight if he was playing Ax suited.... Why would you flat call it?

    When I was playing around with equilab I put in 99+,A2s+,KTs+,JTs,AKo - I could easily be waaaay off as I have only just started. With an unknown player, how do you put them on any kind of range? He could easily have had a small pocket pair which hit to make a set?
  4. #4
    Quote Originally Posted by VoktorBlim View Post
    I must have bet the flop hoping to take the pot right there, as I didn't want a 2 to hit later streets, giving him a straight if he was playing Ax suited.... Why would you flat call it?
    There's isn't much chance of a 2 coming out and I doubt villain pots this flop with Ax, other than AA. Also, if you are going to raise flop then don't min-raise on such a wet flop and allow villain to draw so cheaply (edit: I don't think you did min-raise actually - sry).

    Given sizing though, I don't see many draws in villain's range and this is most likely 66+ (since "I must price out the draws!"), which we are doing fine against. We also have position and Jh and can use that to make an explotable fold facing action or make life difficult for villain if we sense weakenss on a number of run-outs. Calling and re-evaluating turn and river therefore seems best to me.
    Last edited by The Bean Counter; 08-03-2013 at 07:03 AM.
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    http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerfo...pm-123008.html

    I'm being lazy, but lots of the stuff you don't understand is covered in these threads. Mostly in the Ranges/Equity section. This is a bit hypocritical because I've not read most of them myself, but READ THEM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ImSavy View Post
    http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerfo...pm-123008.html

    I'm being lazy, but lots of the stuff you don't understand is covered in these threads. Mostly in the Ranges/Equity section. This is a bit hypocritical because I've not read most of them myself, but READ THEM.
    Ahhhh .... perfect. Well that's my weekend reading sorted out. Tks.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ImSavy View Post
    http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerfo...pm-123008.html

    I'm being lazy, but lots of the stuff you don't understand is covered in these threads. Mostly in the Ranges/Equity section. This is a bit hypocritical because I've not read most of them myself, but READ THEM.
    Quote Originally Posted by VoktorBlim View Post
    Ahhhh .... perfect. Well that's my weekend reading sorted out. Tks.

    There's months of reading material in that link of helpful links. I know. I've read a ton of it... Why haven't you, Savy?

    btw: the self-control I require to write savy, instead of savvy is immense. I suppose it must be intentional ('cause you're one of the sharper tools in the shed), but calling yourself savvy, and misspelling savvy is lol every time.
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    Why are you not full stacked is my first question?

    Second, it says you RAISE to 0.28 and then MP RAISES to 0.28?? Is that a mistake or has he raised to 0.56?

    I 3bet pre and just call the flop.
    Last edited by Cobra_1878; 08-03-2013 at 06:51 AM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cobra_1878 View Post
    Why are you not full stacked is my first question?

    Second, it says you RAISE to 0.28 and then MP RAISES to 0.28?? Is that a mistake or has he raised to 0.56?

    I 3bet pre and just call the flop.
    I'm only going in half stacked so I don't bottle it if I get a decision where I have to go all-in when I still think my hand has showdown value. By playing only 50bb it makes it easier for me at the moment....
  10. #10
    Quote Originally Posted by VoktorBlim View Post
    I'm only going in half stacked so I don't bottle it if I get a decision where I have to go all-in when I still think my hand has showdown value. By playing only 50bb it makes it easier for me at the moment....
    Hmm, OK. Playing with scared money is not good for your development though. You should keep that in mind.
    Currently grinding live cash games. Life is good.
  11. #11
    It says raises 28, not raises to 28, so he's just raised it 3x and then got mraised.
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    As I already worked it all out myself (/I'm a lazy twat, but tbf a lot of it I do know and I have skimmed through quite a few)

    And it's just habbit from a nickname I had which I tried to use as a PSN ID but it was taken so I had to have savy. Since then it's just been my online name.
    Last edited by Savy; 08-03-2013 at 11:05 AM.

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