Do yanks care about UK general election?

[rong]

Yeah, the man is a complete donkey. What worries me more is in spite of his latest bush-like stupidity, I'm still most likely voting for his party.

Also, I'm really disappointed with those debates. They didn't really debate anything, it was more like each of them taking it in turns to have a mini party political broadcast. Nobody was ever really forced into a corner to state one thing or another, they were in general allowed to be vague and not really answer questions, waste of friggin time imo.

And worse still, the dumbassed UK general public will probably now be basing their voting decision on how some chap came accross on TV rather than their policies.

I think we should change the rules of voting so that you have to take a mini exam & point out each parties stance on say 10 main topincs. If you can't do it, you don't have the right to vote, and I don't mean some multiple choice shit either. (FWIW I would fail this misurably)

But seriously, what is the point of some dumb fuck bein allowed to vote. By not having an understanding of the implications of policy and therefore not having a real opinion on who he would like to vote for or why, he simply becomes a pawn of whichever newspaper he reads.

And another thing, what exactly are people supposed to be basing their vote on? The choice that will do what's best for the country or the choice that would do best for them or the choice that would do best at a local community level? As these won't all be the same. In fact the more I think about it, the more I think democracy is wasted on the masses. Great in pronciple, but a complete waste of time in the real world.

[Keith]

And worse still, the dumbassed UK general public will probably now be basing their voting decision on how some chap came accross on TV rather than their policies.

I think we should change the rules of voting so that you have to take a mini exam & point out each parties stance on say 10 main topincs. If you can't do it, you don't have the right to vote, and I don't mean some multiple choice shit either. (FWIW I would fail this misurably)

But seriously, what is the point of some dumb fuck bein allowed to vote. By not having an understanding of the implications of policy and therefore not having a real opinion on who he would like to vote for or why, he simply becomes a pawn of whichever newspaper he reads.

I have to agree , majority of the population are too damn thick to ever be allowed the vote. My mum's hairdresser was telling her yesterday that Brown was only doing what she did herself(i.e talking about people behind there back) so couldn't really blame him for that. And her family have always voted labour as they are working class.She could never vote tory and as she was fed up ewith labour she was thinking of voting Lib dem. When asked if she wanted a permanent hung parliament because of election changes, move more power to europe , get rid of the pound etc ...she said hell no they don't want to do that do they?

As for a pawn of newspaper they read........some of them can't even manage that. How can you vote labour though? Whoever gets in we are in for heavy spending cuts and massive tax hikes. The reason for this is the Labour party. Its ok to say that the current economy has been hit by a worldwide recession after the banking crisis. Our recession has been made much much worse , and our debt is astoundingly huge because when the economy was still booming as a result of the last tory government, brown was not only spending every penny that was coming in to the countries coffers , he was predicting continuing growth in the econowy at a unlikely rate to finance being able to borrow against those unlike future revenues instead of putting money aside for a rainy day and spending his funds judiciously. He had abolished Boom and bust and was arrogant enough that he believed it so he never had to worry about a recession.

The way he acted was like a person on 20k a year assuming he was going to get 5% payrise each year and committed himself to buying loads of luxury goods on credit cards mainly just paying the interest on them.All well and good while he still had the job and payrises . Get made redundant( i.e banking crisis triggering recession) and the whole lot comes crashing down , and thats just what Brown did.And now he's still stupid enough to boast about his achievements on the econmomy when he took an economy that was in healthy shape when he took over form the Tories and like every other labour chancellor of the exchequer in history has turned the economy into a disaster. We now have the same debt in terms of % of GDP as greece and portugal and they are having to be bailed out by the IMF and EU.

The trouble with labour is that in effect the country is a company and they are all trade union sponsored and none of them have ever run a company. The tories tend to be a business oriented background . Hence the economy tends to get sorted out at the expense initially of social care under the tories but in the long term as the economy has been sorted out , interest payments that would have been made financing debt can then be targetted towards social care side of the economy.

Under Labour , theres usually a big increase in social projects, ramping up the debt dragging the economy down and eventually more money is spent financing the debt and is not available for the social side of government spending. The ecenomy is up shit creek and labour can't borrow from the banks cos they had to bail them out and in effect nationalise them because of the lax regultion regime they introduced . Tighten your belt , spending cuts Have to come in and the sooner the better for our future and its going to be painful just like 1979/80 when the last labour government F**ked the economy.

[Ash256]

I have to agree , majority of the population are too damn thick to ever be allowed the vote.

The way he acted was like a person on 20k a year assuming he was going to get 5% payrise each year and committed himself to buying loads of luxury goods on credit cards mainly just paying the interest on them.All well and good while he still had the job and payrises . Get made redundant( i.e banking crisis triggering recession) and the whole lot comes crashing down , and thats just what Brown did.

I love the way that people who advocate an intelligence-based exclusive democracy think everyone else's ignorant horseshit is horseshit but that their ignorant musings are some kind of golden nuggets of wisdom.

Keith, if you were running such a democracy, can you really say you'd allow yourself the vote? Can you?

[Keith]

I love the way that people who advocate an intelligence-based exclusive democracy think everyone else's ignorant horseshit is horseshit but that their ignorant musings are some kind of golden nuggets of wisdom.

Keith, if you were running such a democracy, can you really say you'd allow yourself the vote? Can you?

Of course I would. People should be voting on the issues and have an understanding of the issues , not because they have always voted for one party or another or a leader looks well presented, or isnt one of the other parties. As an example , independent MP Richard Taylor won and retained the wyre forest seat fighting on the issue of saving the local hospital. His constituents were made aware of a local issue and they supported him over the mass media advertising of the major parties. Issues should be the priority , not personalities. Not only would his election to parliament have helped the health service in his constituency but in debates on health service issues across the country.

I'd go further if i had my way, the shadow ministers would ideally have a background in the sector they are minister for, they should truly "shadow " the actual ministers , attend all the meetings where civil servants advise the minister so when the election is settled , the shadow ministers if they are elected already have a firm grasp of the situation, they know the civil servants who they will then be working with and they don't end up with the first few months being a training session .