Quote Originally Posted by Renton View Post
My argument here is that islamic culture is still in a barbaric mindset of circa 1500 ad, but christianity has toned it down immensely since then.

i mean they still fucking stone people
renton, your problem here is that you're generalising far too much and it's coming across badly. There are muslims these days who stone people to death, and there are muslims who are very peaceful. There are christians these days who burn witches (look towards Kenya), and there are christians who are very peaceful.

Some turban wearers are islamic, some are sikh.. Did you know that in 1021 the islamic world developed a scientific method very similar to the one currently used?

What i'm getting at is that the issue at hand is always much more complex than it appears and has many more historic, economic and local variables. Failing to take any of these into account means that, even though many of your points are fine (apart from the turban one which is silly hysterical xenophobia at its best), you still come across as pretty ignorant.

wuf, while what you're saying about Al-Qaeda's recruitment is certainly valid for middle east conflicts, many of the 9/11 attackers were educated and well-off students who had studied overseas, and 3/4 of the London bombers were born and bred in the UK, with the fourth having moved to the UK from Jamaica at the age of 5.