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    Quote Originally Posted by Pioneer View Post
    I would Bet-Fold AA for the same amount, but I would value shove JJ
    I definitely like idea of value shoving JJ, but I don't get that sizing with aces

    - if I would be villain I would probably shove JJ, 8h7h, etc. on turn
    - but I would probably just call with A6, AJ, 66, etc. so against me 1/3 pot size bet is so small


    - I'm playing 50NL, so I give people little bit different ranges than you - so can you please say your reasons for this sizing??
    - and how would you play these hands as villain??
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr. Diamond View Post
    I definitely like idea of value shoving JJ, but I don't get that sizing with aces
    If you add up the combos above you will see you most likely need villian to call with AQ (as well as 2 Pair, AK?, Sets?) to make a bet on the river +EV but if you shove villian will most likely fold AQ hence the smaller bet size.

    *Having said that I don't mind shoving AA (in case he value raises worse?), I think I was just trying to demonstrate the point that JJ is alot stronger in this spot.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pioneer View Post
    If you add up the combos above you will see you most likely need villian to call with AQ (as well as 2 Pair, AK?, Sets?) to make a bet on the river +EV but if you shove villian will most likely fold AQ hence the smaller bet size.

    *Having said that I don't mind shoving AA (in case he value raises worse?), I think I was just trying to demonstrate the point that JJ is alot stronger in this spot.
    - thank you

    - I thought about your post and when I want to write, that (as villain) I'm raising big FD like KJhh, QThh, KQhh, etc. on the flop and every other flushes on the turn, I saw post by Renton (LOL)
    - so w/o flushes and for the reasons you said I would b/c something like 1/2 pot

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