50NL: TPTK vs nit facing huge action

[jimmy44]

I meant that villain would c/c with those hands (Top pair + FD) so we have to raise his donk bet, right?

[griffey24]

I meant that villain would c/c with those hands (Top pair + FD) so we have to raise his donk bet, right?

This is backwards isn't it? If you assume he will c/c with those hands, that's even LESS combo's that we're theoretically ahead of vs his donking range.

Instead of having a bunch of top pair hands plus draws that we beat, now we're only left with hands that are folding, and 3betting us that are ahead or have a combo draw. Maybe a random AQ once in a while, but putting all AQ combos in your range is prob pretty optimistic.

[jimmy44]

This is backwards isn't it? If you assume he will c/c with those hands, that's even LESS combo's that we're theoretically ahead of vs his donking range.

Instead of having a bunch of top pair hands plus draws that we beat, now we're only left with hands that are folding, and 3betting us that are ahead or have a combo draw. Maybe a random AQ once in a while, but putting all AQ combos in your range is prob pretty optimistic.

Yes, I got messed up here ... I forgot that villain lead.

yeah i don't think raising the flop is terrible or anything, but now it's a fold. Generally speaking I don't mind just calling down here - we're not gonna get it in that great vs draws and it's pretty rare that a tight player is going to donk-lead/call with worse here very often.

So you think a tight played would rarely donk-lead/call with FD?
Maybe I'm too optimistic ...

Thanks again guys!