Quote Originally Posted by Lukie View Post
How are you feeling in this spot as a police officer when you respond to a call and a participant in a fight is uncooperative, won't remove his hands from his pocket after multiple clear, loud requests, and is possibly high?
I feel like it's a tough spot that doesn't warrant overt aggression

The cop didn't see the fight, it was just a call. For all he knows the guy who called is mad the Eminem lookin dweeb banged his girlfriend

I do find irony in all the claims of how we're a free country and should be freer coming from the same people who are almost always on the side of excessive police authoritarianism. Not saying you're one of those guys, but the dissonance is a big thing in this country.


I could parrot out the videos of cops pulling over a station wagon of a family and kids because it looked like one described in a robbery, then one of the cops shot and killed the small and non-violent family dog right in front of the children because it got too close to him. Because cops are pretty much "always right", he was justified and nothing other than a slap on the wrist happened

Or the cop who tackled and paralyzed a guy because he was trotting away from a confusing scene where the cops were chasing an alleged bad guy. Again, do everything they can to sweep it under rug and don't change the hugely flawed system

Or the cop who accidentally shot the dude who was already being successfully subdued because he mistook his glock for his taser

Or so many other videos of blatant abuse that may or may not be justifiable, yet are still wrong and should not happen. What we witnessed in Finland with the poliisi is a system structured in such a way that the cops were capable of reservation and safety. In the US, if all cops did that then some of them would start getting shot. This reality has cascaded into an overboard mentality where the possibility that somebody with his hands in his pockets is hiding a weapon, and the cop is justified in accusing him of guilt for that reason

We breed excessive criminality and excessive response to that criminality, and everybody suffers on some level

Also, what would be a better way to handle that situation, from the standpoint of the police officer(s)?
I dunno, maybe not tackling the guy who did nothing.

The shit was probably staged anyways. I'm thinking that even normal protocol doesn't allow for what the cop did, but I don't know. All they show is that cop witnessing a guy just standing in the street with his hands in his pocket, then the cop tells him to get his hands out of his pocket, then when he doesn't he tackles him. It was staged, or there's something they're not showing us, or the cop was in the wrong. If everything in it is true and as seen at first glance, then what the cop did is no different than you telling a cop that somebody punched you, then the cop puts that person under arrest with zero evidence

Come to think of it, the video was staged. Either that or there's much that they didn't tell. It is Hollywood after all