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 Originally Posted by Lukie
Whether and to what extent he was involved in the fight really doesn't matter-- the cop isn't there to find innocence or guilt. It's just all the more reason to follow his commands.
But how else do you respond to non-cooperative person? You still didn't answer directly. You just repeated what you wouldn't do...
It's not a citizen's duty to cooperate. We have rights, or at least we're supposed to. A cop has no right to arrest me because I won't take my hands out of my pockets. He has no right to arrest me because somebody pointed a finger at me. He has no right to arrest me for any combination of those two. At what point did not cooperating itself become a crime? This has become an enormous meme in our society. We're supposed to have rights to tell cops to fuck off unless they have actual evidence to arrest us, but instead everybody thinks that cops opinions are now judge and jury
The video has got to be staged. If it was real, an attorney would get an enormous settlement for the guy who did nothing
All these are significantly different events. Post videos of all of them and I'll give my honest critique. I very well might agree with your take on all of them.
Not sure if this is the exact dog one I'm thinking of because there are more than one, but it works
YouTube - Police shoot family dog during 'felony stop'
Only heard of this one because it was local. The settlement was just to cover his life of medical fees now. Also, this is paralysis. So it's much much much worse than most bad things that happen to humans
10 Million from King County for paralyzed man - MyNorthwest.com
The Bart shooting. We had a thread about it over a year ago
YouTube - Bart Police shooting in Oakland KTVU report
There are sooooooooo many video examples of these kinds of things, but they usually piss me off so much that when I find a source I stop watching them all within minutes
How loose are we supposed to make the definition of "suspect". We're to the point where a cop can justify almost anything now. There's a reason laws are trying to be passed that would make it illegal to film law enforcement
We live in a country with dwindling rights, excessive manufactured crime, and abundant enforcement abuses. It's not a coincidence that our prison population dwarfs other modernized nations per capita. Same with brutality and innocents framed
I don't have any idea as to whether or not it was staged.
I don't agree with the bolded though. The guy did not get arrested or taken down because someone said he was in a fight, but rather because he disobeyed a very simple command related to the officer's safety at least 4 times .
He disobeyed a command he has the right to disobey. In fact, we're supposed to have the right to disobey much much more than simply keeping our hands in our pockets, but a society that prides itself on its crime and brutality strips those rights.
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