25nl: is this potential spew

[Malbrack]

No, I am not advocating bluffing with 72o. My point is that by turning TT into a bluff, you might as well be doing it with something weaker (like a draw). I don't like raising when only better hands call and all worse hands fold. My strategy is to raise when I am ahead of villain's calling range (for value; and even then it is sometimes more +EV to take a less aggressive line) and when I have a strong draw (as a semi-bluff). I thought this was fairly standard, barring good reads on villain's post-flop play.

Your AA example is not the same thing. In that example, a 3bet is never for value, since I am never ahead of his calling range. Yet by 3betting wide, I'm getting lots and lots of better hands to fold, so it is a good bluff. In the OP's example, I'm not sure he could get any better hands to fold, so it is likely not a good bluff.

[jackvance]

No, I am not advocating bluffing with 72o. My point is that by turning TT into a bluff, you might as well be doing it with something weaker (like a draw). I don't like raising when only better hands call and all worse hands fold. My strategy is to raise when I am ahead of villain's calling range (for value; and even then it is sometimes more +EV to take a less aggressive line) and when I have a strong draw (as a semi-bluff). I thought this was fairly standard, barring good reads on villain's post-flop play.

Your AA example is not the same thing. In that example, a 3bet is never for value, since I am never ahead of his calling range. Yet by 3betting wide, I'm getting lots and lots of better hands to fold, so it is a good bluff. In the OP's example, I'm not sure he could get any better hands to fold, so it is likely not a good bluff.

That's way too passive. You're only gonna be betting a small value range and leave a lot on the table. You're also going to get outdrawn a lot, and see action killers. You're gonna show your hand a needless lot. Your passive play will make it more obvious when you have a strong hand and try to get value. I could go on..

[Savy]

That's way too passive. You're only gonna be betting a small value range and leave a lot on the table. You're also going to get outdrawn a lot, and see action killers. You're gonna show your hand a needless lot. Your passive play will make it more obvious when you have a strong hand and try to get value. I could go on..

That's just not true.

TT is a hand which is probably ahead of this persons continuing range on that flop, whereas it's probably behind villains range is he calls or reraises.

We will see this flop with hands that are worse than TT and probably behind this persons continuing range, which we can profitably turn into bluffs and we have good hands which we can legitimately raise for value. TT is too good to turn into a bluff and not good enough to raise for value.

When we c/c it doesn't give away our hand strength either because we can do this with a fairly wide range of hands.