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 Originally Posted by wufwugy
I always say that the endgame for villagers is really easy if gator puts in the legwork and shows me where i've gone wrong, and I think he has done that. It allows us to create the correct lynch order with all the knowledge available.
FYP for you there wuf.
Keith is always the correct lynch, then Rilla if Keith isn't a wolf, and Gator is the one to remain alive. If Gator is the wolf, he deserved the win because he was able to keep from being the weakest link, and there isn't much that the village can do about that. It always boils down to killing the weakest link. Killing Gator or Rilla before Keith is always wrong, even if one of them is the wolf. It's like poker: the right play is the right play for theoretical reasons and regardless of outcome
Have you even thought about how stupid that comment is . The weak link in this game is you and the village is stuck with you which disproves your theory. Unfortunately you are correct in saying that i am the correct lynch today unless jyms joins me and gator in believing that rilla is the wolf, because the village lose if its me , you and rilla alive tomorrow because you lynch me and the wolves win.
Now, I see people disagree with me on that, so I'll explain why I view Keith as the weakest link. I was hoping I didn't need to so I could keep it to myself for future games, but whatever.
oh the arrogance , what use is your strategy when you are always wrong on all the important decisions. Look at all your grand theories this game , most of them were complete rubbish.
1. Keith has done virtually no wolf hunting the entire game. This is one of the first wolf tells to look at. In contrast, Rilla and Gator have done a lot of hunting. In fact, they've done so much, that if you want to call one of them a wolf, you have to adequately make the case for them also preemptively throwing JV under the bus. I previously made that case because I think it was a case that needed to be made, but I'm now pretty sure it's wrong. And if we can't make the case for Rilla or Gator throwing JV under the bus, then we also can't make the case for them being a wolf. They are dependent variables.
What the F*** are you talking about. you don't see me doing any wolf hunting because you never read my posts as you admitted in previous games. in this game i kept asking you to confirm who you were going to shoot if you were given the bullet . you'd post about other things and eventually i had to post asking someon else to ask you to post who you'd shoot.All rilla has done is throw a fellow wolf under the bus and try and discredit anyone that looks like a villager and you fell for it .
Also , overt wolf hunting was irrelevant in this game , I recognized that fact early and hence all the strategy about the vig. This game boiled down to ensuring the PK stayed alive to kill the unknown villagers.You are too stupid to realize that maximising the PK's role and giving strategies to keep him hidden made the wolves chances of winning much smaller.
2. The wolf team ignored each other to a huge degree. JV Ong and Aubrey only exchanged brief and seldom passing comments. It is likely the fourth wolf did the same. Keith fits that bill far more than Rilla and Gator. Rilla doesn't fit the bill at all, and Gator is close behind. There was one brief period where Keith and Aubrey acknowledged each other, but it was very telling of them being a team. Keith was basically pointing out what she did wrong in her posts, and then he dropped it. He never attempted to pursue his thoughts, only to tell her why people were attacking her. They decided to do this ITT instead of in wolfchat
That whole statement is dependent on me being the wolf. When you see that i'm a villager you'll realise what a crock of shit it is.
3. Keith has no opinion on the wolves. On the previous Day, Rilla was in the lead and Keith jumped on Gator with a rationale of "I don't like how he's quoting me", then he moved to Bikes with an explanation of "it's interesting and maybe JKDS would rather shoot between Rilla and Gator". This shows he doesn't care who dies. Then he opened the current Day calling Rilla the wolf. I guarantee he expected me to want to kill Rilla today.
That just demonstrates how stupid you are. You jumped in yesterday with your super theory that i'm the last wolf. Why the hell would i expect you to suddenly see the light and actually lynch the last wolf by voting for rilla.You are dangerous to the village by persueing your theories blind to the evidence so you can go epic and bask in the brilliance of your deductive logic. unfortunately, A dead torch shines brighter.
4. He has gone bananas with his defense posts. This is another pretty huge wolf thing across all games. Just mentioning Keith's name got him riled up to defend himself. He did it many times and very aggressively. Aubrey did the same thing. She never had much real opinion on the wolves but went bonkers whenever under pressure.
I always defend myself vigourously, and the attackers are usually wolves because i'm virtually always a villager and show myself to be a villager. The wolves have to discredit me. Who did that this game when i was showing myself to be a villager (remember JKDS said i was evolving into a super villager, you know the guy who shot aubrey) Rilla did not gator. The wolves could not have anyone else accepted as being a villager , hence the attacks on me by rilla trying to discredit everything that i'd done to make the game harder for the wolves.
5. Keith talked about the vig. Constantly. Rilla and Gator talked about wolves, Keith talked about the vig. Rilla and Gator bolded some fools, Keith talked about the vig. Rilla and Gator expressed opinions about who's wolf and who's not, Keith expressed opinions about the vig. Keith has more vig posts than any other posts, and he kept doing them because everybody kept quoting him saying "oh man look at all this village cred omg".
I kept doing because it was simple maths, the setup of this game and the mass outings meant that we would have won by now barring the extra wolf kill rong gave them. It also put the village in a super strong position after the extra kill was awarded if we could keep PK safe and hidden.
6. His other posts are either no content or no continuity. The no content ones are the kind where he would make huge lists of the action on previous days. He didn't do that too often, but people gave him villager cred whenever he did. And the problem with it is that he didn't actually do anything. He had no opinions about what was going on, he just put up a villager facade that people glazed over because they didn't examine his POV about the stuff he put up (of which he had none). One of these "vil cred" posts was literally just "this is what happened, but no I have no opinion on any of it, just know this is what happened". He made approximately four or so other posts where he gave some list of who he thought was wolf, but they were always long lists and had no continuity. He was just saying stuff
the big difference between us though wuf is what i said was true , what you've said has been worthless and most of the time incorrect.
Keith is 90% the wolf here, but 100% the correct lynch
lynch keith
The gap between Rilla/Gator and Keith is rather enormous. The gap between Rilla and Gator is small, but still exists. I'm super positive they're both villagers, so this is really just thought experimenty, but whatever...
the dierence between me and gator is small , the difference between us and rilla is huge. Unfortunately you've deluded yourself into believing your own propaganda.
Gator comes out WAY ahead of Rilla in the villager department due to having been closer to being fully lynched and with a wolf on that wagon in an integral position, and due to wanting to lynch Aubrey as contrasted with Rilla defended her quite a bit.
I admit i laughed here, I attacked her as well (but wuf disregards that as wolf banter/cover) whereas someone defending a wolf is far more a villager than the person who attacked her..(what have you been smoking wuf?)
However, while this makes Rilla a better lynch than Gator, it doesn't make Rilla the wolf because Keith still exists and those things have a bunch of different explanations. A few are that Rilla's defense of Aubrey was a little too blatant;
For gods sake WUF , once you've lynched me just stop here on the rilla analysis . he's the wolf forget about all these possible explanations for rilla defending her . Go with the obvious , he was keeping his team mate alive.
it's the kind that aggressive villagers like Rilla (and me) tend to do (notice how I've been defending Gator for half the game), and that it only appeared late in the game. In addition, Aubrey began buddying up to Rilla, but also late in the game. It makes a bit more sense for wolves to behave the way Aubrey and Keith have with each other than Rilla and Aubrey because Rilla and Aubrey has been quite an out-in-the-open sort of thing at a time that it just isn't necessary or smart. And if it's true, then it goes against the theme of Rilla throwing JV under the bus, because it would simply make more sense for Rilla to NOT throw him under the bus and instead defend him like he started doing with Aubrey later.
JV was thrown under the bus because they needed cover to appear villagers simply because they were deep in the shit numbers wise at that time,with so many known villagers.
My rationale for why Aubrey started buddying to Rilla is that he was calling her villager and it was a good way to keep herself off his radar. The wolves wanted to be able to win today, with 2 wolves left, but they needed all of Rilla Gator and Bikes to be the next deaths.
why not just go for the obvious, they were protecting each other
This lends its hand to how easily Keith moved to the Bikes lynch. Lynching Bikes was gravy for the wolves because he was the most lockish of non-confirmed villagers (they certainly read the posts I made about how I was never going to lynch him), and then JKDS would be able to shoot Gator or Rilla. Unfortunately for them JKDS was smarter than that. Also Notice that Rilla never got on the Bikes wagon.
Did you read the post where i linked a load of ong quotes up with bikes and the timing thing where ong said he was sure bikes would turn up soon and then half an hour later bikes posted in the thread. Nah , you'd conveniently forget that post because it blows your theory about me not doing any wolf hunting out of the water.It also was the reason for me getting on the bikes lynch. BIt inconvenient for your theory isn't it.
Also Aubrey's first big defense post was partially in response to Rilla. Every other player on her list for her response was a villager. I'm quite confident that Aubrey's main thing was to stay the fuck out of trouble. Also Aubrey said to Keith something along the lines of "gimme a break, im not allowed to stay late at work? fuck." She never posted like that to anybody else, except me but that doesn't count. This tells me that she was trying to be really cordial with everybody else but knew that Keith couldn't misconstrue her words because they knew they were playing
so she posted like that to a known villager so the fact that she did it to me makes me a wolf. using your logic that also makes you a wolf . thats just crazy .why don't you consider that she was flustered because she was a wolf coming under pressure and needed to play for time to get advice on how to react.
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