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  1. #1
    Don't like pre, calling is fine

    On the flop, what are your reasons for betting? I know this sounds like an obvious question, but maybe we can give you more insight if we can hear your thoughts.

    On the Turn, why were you planning to check raise?

    Give a distinct range for what you think he could have after he calls the flop, and then a distinct description
    of what part of that range bets when you check, and what you are trying to accomplish with a check raise.

    After you've done that, we should talk about your bet size on the river as played.
    Last edited by caddie444; 09-30-2013 at 01:13 AM.


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  2. #2
    Thanks for the reply Caddie, excellent questions.

    Quote Originally Posted by caddie444 View Post
    On the flop, what are your reasons for betting? I know this sounds like an obvious question, but maybe we can give you more insight if we can hear your thoughts.
    I'm betting for value. He can call with a lot of pair+draw or just draws.

    On the Turn, why were you planning to check raise?
    Well I thought I was bluffing, but I obviously wasn't - see my range analysis below.

    Give a distinct range for what you think he could have after he calls the flop, and then a distinct description
    of what part of that range bets when you check, and what you are trying to accomplish with a check raise.
    When he calls the flop: QQ, JJ, TT, 99, AJ, ATs, A9s, AQ, KJ, KQ, KTs, QTs, JTs

    Bets (for value) when I check: KJ, KTs, AQ
    Bets (semi)bluffing when I check: 99, QJ, QTs, AJ, ATs, A9s
    Checks back for showdown value: QQ, JTs, KQ

    Of the hands he bets, 65%+ are (semi)bluffs.

    So yeah, I figured I would be bluffing if I C/R the turn, but if he bets the turn when I check it to him, he's super polarised and either has fat value hands that he's almost never folding, or stuff I beat anyway. So, if I was gonna c/r turn, it's better to do it with total air.

    As Griffey said, I should have just bet the turn for value. It looks (to me, on first inspection) like the kind of spot where we can't bet the turn for value with TPGK, so it's obviously a spot I need to learn more about.
    Last edited by BorisTheSpider; 09-30-2013 at 06:42 PM.

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