Varchertine's Werewolf Game Thread

[baudib]

IT DOESN'T MATTER ANYMORE BECAUSE ONG SAID HE WAS A WOLF

How the eff are we not lynching ong today after that?

because if we lynch Ong there is a chance you guys go back to lynching me or something ridiculous tomorrow and let Boog off the hook.

[OngBonga]

Listen to drew. I flat out claimed wolf, and fucking howled. There's no way you can lynch boog ahead of me now. No fucking way.

Just DO NOT LYNCH BOOG BEFORE BAUDIB, and we're golden.

[baudib]

I mean seriously, Ong, Boog and Keybored have been in full blown anti-spew mode for almost 30 hours now. Don't let them dictate the lynch order.

[OngBonga]

because if we lynch Ong there is a chance you guys go back to lynching me or something ridiculous tomorrow and let Boog off the hook.

Look who's anticipating my villager flip already.

[baudib]

Look who's anticipating my villager flip already.

LOL

this will never happen

[OngBonga]

Why on earth would you get lynched tomorrow if I flip wolf today?

[baudib]

Why on earth would you get lynched tomorrow if I flip wolf today?

have you seen this village? read MMM's last post.

[baudib]

Keybored is still more of a threat than Ong IMO.

[baudib]

Ong, talk about Keybored and Daven.

[Luco]

I need to go back and re-read how baudib went from overtly defending wuf-hoopy d1 to attacking them all d2, see if I can follow it

[OngBonga]

I'll talk about everyone.

rilla/baudib
rascal/ong
keyb/luco
drew/mojo
boog/monstr
daven/bigred

We have six pairs, that's twelve people, three wolves, nine villagers. So long as there are four villagers alive, wolves cannot win. Thus, two cleared pairs will win for the village.

We have drew/mojo, who look really solid in terms of their v cred. Bearing in mind that there's likely to be three villagers paired to the wolves, there's a very good chance we already have this won, because the three "bad" villagers, together with drew/mojo, is more than the sum of the wolves. If there's a pair of wolves together, then it gets interesting. There's an extra mislynch for them, which gives them out. But, what happens when we get one more cleared pair of villagers? Then we have it locked.

Does anyone see why boog is such a key mislynch yet? Does anyone see why baudib is flat out insisting that boog goes before I do? Because THEY FUCKING NEED HIS MISLYNCH.

[baudib]

I need to go back and re-read how baudib went from overtly defending wuf-hoopy d1 to attacking them all d2, see if I can follow it

the only reason I defended Wuf was that I felt the formation of his wagon indicated that there were wolves on it.

There were.

[baudib]

I need to go back and re-read how baudib went from overtly defending wuf-hoopy d1 to attacking them all d2, see if I can follow it

and the logical conclusion that everyone should come to after the Gabe flip is that Boog is a wolf and wolves saved him.

He is, and they did. Ong has said himself many times that if we think wolves saved Boog, we should think he's a wolf.

[MadMojoMonkey]

the correct lynch here is Boog always. saying you will lynch Ong and then me is absurd when you yourself have said we are always V-W.

Nope. I never said that. I said you have theown down that you are not V-V. W-W is def. on the table.

[baudib]

I need to go back and re-read how baudib went from overtly defending wuf-hoopy d1 to attacking them all d2, see if I can follow it

furthermore, I always believed Boog was the most likely wolf but Monstr almost always a villager, and the extra wolf equity in Hoopy - Monstr led me to lynching Wuf over Boog.

[baudib]

Nope. I never said that. I said you have theown down that you are not V-V. W-W is def. on the table.

oh. well. LOL

[OngBonga]

I think balance dictates that there has to be a wolf pair. If all the wolves are split, then just one single cleared villager pair is enough to secure the win for the village. That seems too tough for the wolves, even considering the lack of specials.

There has to be a wolf pair imo.

[baudib]

I just want us to play correctly. If you guys insist on lynching Ong first, that's fine. It just means more work for me, I'll put in more effort on Day 4.

[a500lbgorilla]

I think balance dictates that there has to be a wolf pair. If all the wolves are split, then just one single cleared villager pair is enough to secure the win for the village. That seems too tough for the wolves, even considering the lack of specials.

There has to be a wolf pair imo.

Game design also prevents truly cleared villager pairs.

[baudib]

I think balance dictates that there has to be a wolf pair. If all the wolves are split, then just one single cleared villager pair is enough to secure the win for the village. That seems too tough for the wolves, even considering the lack of specials.

There has to be a wolf pair imo.

the game is cinched, you are mathematically eliminated.

[BankItDrew]

I'd like to hear about why players haven't yet bolded ong after he said he was a wolf.

[OngBonga]

Game design also prevents truly cleared villager pairs.

True, but it's really tight for the wolves from the very start. Too tight for a balanced game imo. I think there's a w/w pair.

[a500lbgorilla]

I'd like to hear about why players haven't yet bolded ong after he said he was a wolf.

I don't suspect he's a wolf.

[OngBonga]

I'd like to hear about why players haven't yet bolded ong after he said he was a wolf.

Yeah, even I'm on me.

[a500lbgorilla]

I don't suspect he's a wolf.

Though, I am interested to see his role flip. If he flips wolf, it'll be a learning experience.

[OngBonga]

drew knows I'm a villager, he just doesn't want me to think I can get away with it as a wolf. I actually admire his stance, even though there is a strategic reason for my howling.

[BankItDrew]

I don't suspect he's a wolf.

But he said he was a wolf.

[a500lbgorilla]

But he said he was a wolf.

Yes, he has.

[BankItDrew]

I actually admire his stance, even though there is a strategic reason for my howling.

Since when do you get V cred for saying "I am a wolf"?

[a500lbgorilla]

drew knows I'm a villager, he just doesn't want me to think I can get away with it as a wolf. I actually admire his stance, even though there is a strategic reason for my howling.

So what was the reason?

[OngBonga]

But he said he was a wolf.

Yeah but do you actually believe it, or is it policy? If you believe it, then you're not thinking it through.

As a wolf, it is stupid in all circumstances.
As a villager, it's not stupid if I truly believe that my lynch is not a bad thing when considering the bigger picture.

[OngBonga]

Since when do you get V cred for saying "I am a wolf"?

Who said anything about v cred?

[OngBonga]

So what was the reason?

To ensure boog doesn't get lynched before me.

[baudib]

I'll talk about everyone.

rilla/baudib
rascal/ong
keyb/luco
drew/mojo
boog/monstr
daven/bigred

We have six pairs, that's twelve people, three wolves, nine villagers. So long as there are four villagers alive, wolves cannot win. Thus, two cleared pairs will win for the village.

We have drew/mojo, who look really solid in terms of their v cred. Bearing in mind that there's likely to be three villagers paired to the wolves, there's a very good chance we already have this won, because the three "bad" villagers, together with drew/mojo, is more than the sum of the wolves. If there's a pair of wolves together, then it gets interesting. There's an extra mislynch for them, which gives them out. But, what happens when we get one more cleared pair of villagers? Then we have it locked.

Does anyone see why boog is such a key mislynch yet? Does anyone see why baudib is flat out insisting that boog goes before I do? Because THEY FUCKING NEED HIS MISLYNCH.

you notably did not talk about Daven and Keybored here, incidentally.

[MadMojoMonkey]

I wanna understand how 2 days of conversation centered around Boog happens, and Boog has 5 posts during that time.

Paging bigred. Will bigred please play the game or request to be subbed out? Paging bigred.

Hey daven. 3 posts? You up a mountain again?

***
The sheer imbalance in post count this game is a massive headache.

[OngBonga]

I think boog will be totally bemused by events this game.

[BankItDrew]

Who said anything about v cred?

If you believe it, then you're not thinking it through.
As a wolf, it is stupid in all circumstances.
As a villager, it's not stupid if I truly believe that my lynch is not a bad thing when considering the bigger picture.

It this not you trying to explain how it makes more sense for a villager to do what you did than a wolf?

[OngBonga]

you notably did not talk about Daven and Keybored here, incidentally.

So? It doesn't matter. We've won so long as you die before boog.

[MadMojoMonkey]

But he said he was a wolf.

At this point it's another in a line of odd hail mary's that Ong has thrown.

From his rally to the gabe vote, to his "I only make this post as a villager" post, to his vote on and off of rascal and now this.

Ong is spazzing all over the place.

[OngBonga]

It this not you trying to explain how it makes more sense for a villager to do what you did than a wolf?

Well I suppose so. It doesn't matter though. I didn't do it for village cred, because a) I'm not a wolf, and b) I know I'll get none for it.

[Luco]

I wanna understand how 2 days of conversation centered around Boog happens, and Boog has 5 posts during that time.

Paging bigred. Will bigred please play the game or request to be subbed out? Paging bigred.

Hey daven. 3 posts? You up a mountain again?

***
The sheer imbalance in post count this game is a massive headache.

Ding Ding Ding

[a500lbgorilla]

Baudib's right, ong. What are you reads on Keyb, Daven and the rest of the gang?

[OngBonga]

Ong is spazzing all over the place.

I'm actually enjoying this game again. IRL yesterday was tiresome. I'm happy now that boog isn't gettig lynched. So now I'm going to flip villager, and put a whole world of pressure on baudib tomorrow. When he flips wolf, you'll find the last two wolves really quickly because boog will be cleared.

I feel like we've won already. I feel as though I've taken away the wolves' only hope, which was to secure boog's mislynch before he becomes cleared by associsation.

[Keybored]

ONG...I have a question for you that requires a real time answer. You online right now?

[OngBonga]

Baudib's right, ong. What are you reads on Keyb, Daven and the rest of the gang?

keyb and daven are probably villagers. daven was very strong against wuf. daven's lack of involvement can easily be explained by southern hemisphere, summer, new zealand and mountains. I'd be as active as him if I were where he is. keyb could be a wolf, but I'm liking him right now. My lack of interest in seriously looking for them is because it doesn't matter. As soon as boog/monstr are clear, there's no hiding places left for the wolves.

I'll punt at luco and rascal as the last two.

[OngBonga]

ONG...I have a question for you that requires a real time answer. You online right now?

No.

[Keybored]

Baud...same for you. You online?

[Keybored]

ONG...WHAT IS YOUR CHARACTER NAME?
Answer right this second!!!

[MadMojoMonkey]

[OngBonga]

Someone's virtual girlfriend... russian name

[Keybored]

If you're a wolf...you won't have to look up KGB characters and cross check with what Wuf has already used.

[OngBonga]

Kreiger's Virtual Girlfriend with ISIS

[OngBonga]

rascal is Kreiger, btw

[a500lbgorilla]

JKDS gave them cover names.

[Keybored]

Ready to move your vote to the right place now?

[OngBonga]

Fuck, my apologies if I shouldn't have said that. As soon as I hit submit I realised what I did...

[Keybored]

JKDS gave them cover names.

The wolves got Villager cover names.
The villagers got villager names, no covers.
Ong should have been able to insta-drop his KGB name

[a500lbgorilla]

Fuck, my apologies if I shouldn't have said that. As soon as I hit submit I realised what I did...

OH YOU'RE FUCKED NOW

[a500lbgorilla]

The wolves got Villager cover names.
The villagers got villager names, no covers.
Ong should have been able to insta-drop his KGB name

...his KGB name?

[OngBonga]

popcorn

[MadMojoMonkey]

Specific Game Rules

[/B]1. Every player is linked to another player. If you die, the person linked to you dies as well.
2. You dont know the alignment of the person youre linked to! They could be ISIS, or KGB!
3. You may talk with the person you are linked to anytime, in any way. I prefer quicktopics myself, so that they can be shared at endgame.
4. You may reveal your role name at anytime, but be warned. The KGB each have believable fake claims. This will probably get you nowhere.
5. Self-lynches will NOT be modkillable offenses this game. However, they will still count as a vote.

4. You may reveal your role name at anytime, but be warned. The KGB each have believable fake claims. This will probably get you nowhere.

[Keybored]

If Ong's claiming to be KGB (wolf), he should have dropped us his KGB name...

[a500lbgorilla]

If Ong's claiming to be KGB (wolf), he should have dropped us his KGB name...

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Is Baudib right?

[Keybored]

A wolf can easily hide behind a villager name.
A villager can't hide behind a wolf name unless he's got one in his hip pocket.
And who dafuq would ever do that?

[a500lbgorilla]

But a wolf could pretend not to be able to hide behind a wolf persona because he's not mentally deminished.

[Keybored]

uncomfortable silence
crickets

[OngBonga]

keybored fucked up there.

ok so if keybored is a wolf, then he hammered wuf to save..... drumroll please.... baudib.

[OngBonga]

It's luco keybored baudib

[Keybored]

Holy fucking reveal...It's BAUDIB AND ONG!!!

[OngBonga]

Bear in mind that at the time, baudib had rilla in his pocket, while wuf had hoopy on his case.

Wolf nails the more vulnerable wolf for the creds.

ez game.

[a500lbgorilla]

Holy fucking reveal...It's BAUDIB AND ONG!!!

Keybored, what's going on?

[Keybored]

Ong....my point in that exercise was to show that you were indeed a villager by not being able to insta-post your KGB name. Cuz villagers don't have KGB cover names. But you fucked that all up.

[a500lbgorilla]

Ong....my point in that exercise was to show that you were indeed a villager by not being able to insta-post your KGB name. Cuz villagers don't have KGB cover names. But you fucked that all up.

How do you know Ong is a villager?

[Keybored]

FFS...Ong's claiming to be an Arooo'd wolf! But when asked what his wolf name was, he couldn't come up with one in real time. Therefore, he's a villager. Right? Then why is he reacting the way he is?

[baudib]

my name has been reported multiple times by Rilla and myself.

Tiffy