Looking at BID's posts for possible reasons for his NK.
#66 call of JKDS as wolfy (with regards to his 4 player post with Luco at the top)
#234 quotes gator's post and points out gabe's lack of logic in clearing Luco voters and gabe voting for gator (a Luco voter)
#242 calls me wolfy but has baudib wolfier and votes baudib
#314 points out MMM wagon mainly pushed by gator and gabe, but respects their game so votes for me
#411 asks us to look at gabe and baudib if he gets nommed since they don't have him as a solid villager
Based on this I'd guess that BID was NK'd for his posts against gabe or baudib. It doubt it would be his post against JKDS because that was very early D1 and before the Luco lynch.
This makes more sense to me than his posts. Why say the nightkill overrides everything but then follow with "After the NK I can't see lynching anyone else" (referring to Rascal). Those two posts, made almost back to back are not congruent with each other.
Originally Posted by baudib
Anyway, just ignore Ong because we're obviously all going to let him win if he's the wolf. I think he's got a little bit too much try hard going, but whatever.
Coming into today, I felt like Rascal was always the correct lynch but I really wanted a reason to YOLO someone. After the NK I can't see lynching anyone else. I could see a couple people FPSing it there but meh...Rascal was also not really caught up with the thread so probably didn't have a good feel for who's most clear.
Originally Posted by GatorJH
I completely disagree with this. Of all the people targeting Rascal Drew seemed the most ambivalent. This night kill actually takes my focus away from Rascal. I need to look through the thread, but I keep getting an uneasy feeling from you.
Originally Posted by baudib
I don't even think Rascal is very wolfy, but I have good reasons to call everyone else in the game a villager.
Gator can't fool me with his null tone and role-neutral banter, he's trying to figure people out and thinking about the long-term shape of the village.
Gabe has extremely fluid, pure tone/thought processes.
JKDS is boxing himself into a tight corner if he's a wolf by hard-clearing half the game already.
Ong is doing a lot of work and voted for Luco.
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I haven't done anything wolfy, but I didn't vote for Luco. That thing where JKDS tried to preemptively take credit for the Luco flip will haunt me until the end of the game, but he feels like a villager. Granted, I don't really know what his wolf game looks like.
So you should absolutely wagon me and Rascal, and if that doesn't work, kill Ong immediately at F3.
This interaction between gator and baudid make me think puts gator in my villa pile and baudib as the likely wolf.
First baudid thinks I'm the wolf and then he says he doesn't think I'm wolfy. I really don't like the flip-flopping by baudib here.
This isn't just a case of baudib being wolfy. This is also a case of everyone else being villagery. Even rascal, tbh. My problem with rascal is that I kinda expect a solid enough wolf game from him that this could be it. But he's villagery. There's only one person who isn't.
So anyway, we have Ongwolf properly tarped. If Ong tries to make a case against someone other than me today, I suggest we burn him with fire immediately.
Originally Posted by baudib
lynch Rascal
These posts are two minutes apart. If you think Ong is a wolf, why are you wanting to lynch me?
Rascal, I'm bending over backwards to get you to try to prove you're a villager when you're probably always the correct lynch today and this is the thanks I get?
To be quite frank, I expected more from you here and if you're a villager there's a really good chance we're gonna lose.
Look at Ong/JKDS and get your thoughts out there before you vote FFS.
These posts are two minutes apart. If you think Ong is a wolf, why are you wanting to lynch me?
That makes no sense.
I explained why I thought you are the correct lynch for like, a lot of reasons. In the event Ong is the wolf he shouldn't win because he set up the mislynches in the wrong order.
Clearly sentiment is against lynching Ong so it's not even worth my time.
I mean, you should know this but /Gadarene Werewolf is in inherently probabilistic game /Gadarene
acting like your assumption/vote is going to be correct even 50% of the time is going to be wrong
I'm also reaching the conclusion that everyone else is town. I'm not just looking at you.
explain your SOD where every little thing I did in the game pointed to me being a wolf, even the stuff that contradicted what you said made me a wolf yesterday.
I swear if you're a villager this game I'm going to policy lynch you forever for this.
So anyway, we have Ongwolf properly tarped. If Ong tries to make a case against someone other than me today, I suggest we burn him with fire immediately.
Originally Posted by baudib
anyway Rascal, whenever you feel like ending the day go for it.
just put your thoughts out there
unless you're a wolf, in which case just roll over and die.
I'm still catching up.
I'm putting my thoughts out there as I come to them in the thread.
Can you say that again in a way that I'll understand?
Ong, your first 5-6 posts this morning that were exclusively about me in no way come from a logical, sane person who is actively trying to slve the game.
I realize you could be a villager and you need me to be out of the game to actually think correctly but once again this is a YOU problem that you might need to address at some point.
Glancing through JKDS' posts. Same story. There's moments of paranoia, but overall I like how he's handled me. I doubt he would have as part of his wolf strategy "get ong to townread me", I mean it's not like I have a good record of keeping alive my town reads, is it mojo? So yeah he feels legit in him trying to figure me out.
So anyway, we have Ongwolf properly tarped. If Ong tries to make a case against someone other than me today, I suggest we burn him with fire immediately.
Originally Posted by GatorJH
lynch jkds
Ong is never a wolf.
Gabe is 75% villager imo due to style and tone. He just seems villager to me.
Rascal genuinely seems like he is busy and doesn't look as wolfish as I thought so I put him at 60%. BID doesn't stand out one way or the other either so I will also put him at 50/50.
Baudib says some good and some bad but if JKDS isn't the wolf I think he would be so let's say 40%
Who wants to join me?
I'm assuming that you meant JKDS here instead of BID since you voted him.
Ong, your first 5-6 posts this morning that were exclusively about me in no way come from a logical, sane person who is actively trying to slve the game.
I realize you could be a villager and you need me to be out of the game to actually think correctly but once again this is a YOU problem that you might need to address at some point.
glgl
The problem is baudib that if you're a villager, you behave in a wolfy way. See my posts for further explanation. I don't like being wrong constantly asout the same person. But if I think you're wolfy, then expect me to say so. Previous results do not matter. You're wolfy this game. Noone else is. Bad luck.
Ong, I've played 10 straight games now comprising roughly 10,000 posts and 110,000 game posts and 300 players, and I've garnered probably a total of 20 votes. I've been killed exactly once in that period, so that's probably 50+ game days. Of those 20 votes, 4 of them have been from you.
Originally Posted by OngBonga
The problem is baudib that if you're a villager, you behave in a wolfy way. See my posts for further explanation. I don't like being wrong constantly asout the same person. But if I think you're wolfy, then expect me to say so. Previous results do not matter. You're wolfy this game. Noone else is. Bad luck.
there is absolutely zero logic in anything that you've said about me.
exhibit A
"You sound like the wolf who is going to nom me tonight."
(Bid gets nommed)
"You're obviously the wolf because you didn't want to nom me."
Lets talk night kills. Imo, it was between Gabe, ong, and BID. Each had strong reasons to be a villager, and each was near cleared by the entire village. So why BID? 1) Theres the "oh noes, gabe is still alive...must be a wolf...." line. 2) BID is on the right track. 3) Gabe/ong are on the wrong track, or (and this is most likely imo) 4) its the "I would never kill BID, therefore im a villager" line.
Theres also second level stuff to make it look like one of those reasons. Thats way too fps tho.
I think BID was killed so the wolf could say he'd never make the kill. Which means its baudib, and I got tricked off of my read for like the billionth time this year.
Even if im wrong, its never gabe/ong, and its gator only 1% of the time. So long as you three trust each other then we never lose.
Lynch Baudib
Lynch Rascal
@Ong: I voted that way because the order of the lynches is largely irrelevant. Its one of MMM, Rascal, or Baudib; and we have more than enough lynches to get there.
@Gator: The Luco, Baudib, Gator, Gabe list wasnt made by choosing those 4. It was made by eliminating the other four.
I don't follow your logic here. At first you say the NK should be between gabe, ong and BID, but you're surprised that it's BID and give some FPS logic as to why it shouldn't be BID.
This doesn't look like villager thought processes to me.
I did some quick math and this is true. Assume we lynch baud and rascal today. That leaves Ong,Gabe, Gator, JKDS and Drew. One of Gator,Ong, Gabe gets lynched. Let's say Gator. That leaves Ong, Gabe, JKDS and Drew. As long as the wolf is one of JKDS and Drew the game is over.
Wolf JKDS would never say this unless he was HIGHLY confident he could swing toward one of us three the second half of the last day.
rescind JKDS
lynch baudib
This is the second time you've listed Drew in the live players. As I said before, if this is a derp clear attempt, it's failing. I still think you're villa, but this is odd IMO.
I have gator as villa because hs is rereading the thread and trying to solve the game. He's pulled up quotes from early in the game today and pointed out some inconsistencies. I haven't played with him before, but his posting seems pure to me.
I have gator as villa because hs is rereading the thread and trying to solve the game. He's pulled up quotes from early in the game today and pointed out some inconsistencies. I haven't played with him before, but his posting seems pure to me.
Gator is the best wolf among the FTR regs, FWIW, (or it's close between him and Gabe) and one of his hallmarks is that when he's a wolf, you'll consider him one of the best villagers in the game.
But I agree with you. I think I'm OK losing to Gator.
I'm assuming that you meant JKDS here instead of BID since you voted him.
If it's a derp clear attempt, it's a bad one.
No, unfortunately I did mean BID. I spent most of my afternoon thinking there were 7 left so while I wasn't looking at BID's posts because I knew he was dead I kept adding him into analysis because in my head I knew there had to be 7 players. I actually did it a couple of times.
Gator is the best wolf among the FTR regs, FWIW, (or it's close between him and Gabe) and one of his hallmarks is that when he's a wolf, you'll consider him one of the best villagers in the game.
But I agree with you. I think I'm OK losing to Gator.
You only lose to me this game if you are a wolf. If you are a villager you need to hope I win it for the team.
Gator is the best wolf among the FTR regs, FWIW, (or it's close between him and Gabe) and one of his hallmarks is that when he's a wolf, you'll consider him one of the best villagers in the game.
But I agree with you. I think I'm OK losing to Gator.
No, unfortunately I did mean BID. I spent most of my afternoon thinking there were 7 left so while I wasn't looking at BID's posts because I knew he was dead I kept adding him into analysis because in my head I knew there had to be 7 players. I actually did it a couple of times.
Yeah, I pointed out the other one too that you'll come across when you catch up.
Gator - Villa: For reasons I posted above.
Ong - Villa Lean: I can't see wolf Ong going at baudib this hard.
JKDS - Neutral to Slight Wolf Lean: I keep going back and forth on JKDS. I need to reread him tbh.
gabe - Wolf Lean: I'm suspicious of him because of the BID NK and his posting so far today hasn't given me any villa vibes.
baudib - Wolf Lean: Mainly because I've never baudib flip flop in his voting this much. In this game, he's pushing Ong, but then voting me and then switches to JKDS. In addition, some of your posts have been inconsistent, which isn't normally what I expect from baudib.
there's nothing inconsistent Rascal, I'm just changing my mind a lot between pretty close equities.
literally in my head this morning, before seeing the reveal, I went from "Well it has to be Rascal but I want to YOLO JKDS" to "WOW THAT NIGHTKILL IS TOTALLY JKDS" to "Meh only Rascal probably kills BID there" in like 5 mins.
if that's what you mean by inconsistent then you're flat out lying because that's no different than any EOD in every turbo ever.
there's nothing inconsistent Rascal, I'm just changing my mind a lot between pretty close equities.
literally in my head this morning, before seeing the reveal, I went from "Well it has to be Rascal but I want to YOLO JKDS" to "WOW THAT NIGHTKILL IS TOTALLY JKDS" to "Meh only Rascal probably kills BID there" in like 5 mins.
if that's what you mean by inconsistent then you're flat out lying because that's no different than any EOD in every turbo ever.
I'm not lying, I quoted your inconsistencies. Go look at what I pointed out.
This isn't a turbo, so that analogy doesn't work. In a turbo I react and soul read. In a long game, I take my time to read the game and point out the things that ping me.
I'm not lying, I quoted your inconsistencies. Go look at what I pointed out.
This isn't a turbo, so that analogy doesn't work. In a turbo I react and soul read. In a long game, I take my time to read the game and point out the things that ping me.
are you talking about post 682? I explained that already.
I've pointed out the many ridiculous wolfy things Ong said about me today and it fell on deaf ears. It's obvious he isn't going to get lynched today and the village needs to see my flip before they start putting heat on anyone else. In reality it seems like everyone is just willing to let Ong win.
I'm not lying, I quoted your inconsistencies. Go look at what I pointed out.
This isn't a turbo, so that analogy doesn't work. In a turbo I react and soul read. In a long game, I take my time to read the game and point out the things that ping me.
I play turbos the same way I play any other game. My post/minute in huge mashes translate roughly the same as my turbo rate. Here it's much lower because no one posts more than 20 times a day so there isn't much to talk about.
This interaction between gator and baudid make me think puts gator in my villa pile and baudib as the likely wolf.
First baudid thinks I'm the wolf and then he says he doesn't think I'm wolfy. I really don't like the flip-flopping by baudib here.
FWIW Ong says exactly the same thing about me. Why does that not ping you?
Originally Posted by OngBonga
This isn't just a case of baudib being wolfy. This is also a case of everyone else being villagery. Even rascal, tbh. My problem with rascal is that I kinda expect a solid enough wolf game from him that this could be it. But he's villagery. There's only one person who isn't.
This is a no brainer really.
I said I had you as the wolf because I could make a case for everyone else being a villager and but not you.
incidentally Rascal, Gator, whom we both have as villa, went from "wolf JKDS probably never does this" to voting him within like 5 posts or something.
it's just that type of game.
Originally Posted by lilrascal
I missed that on reading tonight. I'll have to go look at his progression on that.
I went back and read thru that and it's apparent that gator was rereading JKDS since it took over an hour and a half for him to say he needed to go back and reread JKDS and his post where he voted for him.
After going back and rereading his analysis, it reinforces my feelings on gator being a villager and puts JKDS back into my wolf pile.
FWIW Ong says exactly the same thing about me. Why does that not ping you?
Because I've seen you do this in both roles and I haven't seen that from Ong. In the games that I've seen him wolf, I haven't seen him be this antagonistic.
Originally Posted by baudib
I said I had you as the wolf because I could make a case for everyone else being a villager and but not you.
It may be because of the game state that we're in. With the lynch of Luco with only 1 post, there's no spew to work with so the wolf doesn't have anything to hide or spew. I think that may make this game tougher than normal.
FWIW Gator and Gabe are probably too good as wolves to clear this light this early, but I really feel good about them.
Gabe in particular. I don't actually know who "led" the MMM lynch (he blamed me for some reason, no ragrets) but I felt I was mindmelding with Gabe when he pointed out all of MMM's weird posts. I think Gator said similar things.
I always find wordy, over-explained reads to be extremely wolfy, but if Gabe was faking those reactions it's pretty sick.
Gator claims reading Gabe as a wolf is easy, so maybe ask him for his opinion.
FWIW Gator and Gabe are probably too good as wolves to clear this light this early, but I really feel good about them.
Gabe in particular. I don't actually know who "led" the MMM lynch (he blamed me for some reason, no ragrets) but I felt I was mindmelding with Gabe when he pointed out all of MMM's weird posts. I think Gator said similar things.
I always find wordy, over-explained reads to be extremely wolfy, but if Gabe was faking those reactions it's pretty sick.
Gator claims reading Gabe as a wolf is easy, so maybe ask him for his opinion.
I'd have to go back and reread who pushed the MMM lynch, but when I was reading BID, he said in post #314 that the MMM lynch was pushed by gator and gabe.
Rascal, when did you ever see me wolf in a long game? I've been a wolf here but not any games you've been in, in 3 of Top Tier Tom's vanilla + games and in the Monkey Banana no-reveal game, and that's it.
I mostly only play mashes now and I've never been a wolf in a mash.
Rascal, when did you ever see me wolf in a long game? I've been a wolf here but not any games you've been in, in 3 of Top Tier Tom's vanilla + games and in the Monkey Banana no-reveal game, and that's it.
I mostly only play mashes now and I've never been a wolf in a mash.
I thought I played in a mash where you were a wolf.
I've never been a wolf in a mash. The only mash we've been in was that minimash on MU and the GoT, I was a villager and you were an orange wolf or something.
Note to villagers: After I'm dead DO NOT autolynch Rascal just cuz "lol POE"
Rascal has been absent quite a bit from the game but he laid slank cover in the signup. I think the only real thing that points to him being the wolf is killing Drew, because I legit think it's a dumb kill for anyone else to make. Drew wanted to lynch Rascal, and Rascal's not that familiar with us, and hasn't wolfed here yet.
I'm doing an ISO on Rascal's wolf game in GoT, and granted that's a multi-faction, 69-player game, but his posting is night and day.
I hope the formatting on this works or else it will be impossible to read. Sorry in advance.
First off, he makes tons of posting giving excuses as to why he's not in the thread, and promises to be back later.
Spoiler:
Originally Posted by lilrascal
I'm only around during the evening because of work. I only made the ITA yesterday evening, missed all of Monday's worked late today and jumped on the phone to try and help. I can't post during work except sometimes when I leave for lunch.
I had to work extra today and just got off. I'm still in the parking lot about to make the drive home. Then I'll be back in the thread, just like last night.
Originally Posted by lilrascal
Sorry to hear that. I've liked your play this game and I'm doing my best to contrinute on my limited time. I'm heading home now. I'll be back ITT in a bit.
Originally Posted by lilrascal
grabbing dinner, be back in about 20
Originally Posted by lilrascal
As I stated in the sign-up thread and is usual for me, I normally can only interact after work and sometimes at lunch. The amount of posting in this thread is overwhelming and I'm trying to do my best. But, yes my game yesterday was meah.
Last night I planned to be in the thread more, but I had to take the wife out to dinner and then had a horrible headache and went to bed early. I feel better today, so I hopefully will be productive today.
Originally Posted by lilrascal
Hey guys, checking in during lunch for a few.
Wow, bad night last night.
Any cliffs for today other than the chartz suq reposted above?
Stuff like that is literally probably 8%-10% of his posts in this game (only 100). And it wasn't just that he had excuses, most of which were probably legitimate, it's that he had zero sustained presence in the thread ever and makes it a point of saying how busy he is in all of his posting bursts.
I think the most noticeable thing about Rascal's wolf game (and granted, it was almost a year ago) is that he offered almost no original thoughts ever.
Almost all of his posts involve him quoting another post and making a really simple comment on it, or trying to look helpful, or talking about game mechanics. The trying to look helpful posts came in the form of talk about lore and stuff like, "HAY GUIZE WHO SHOULD I SHOOT IN ITAS?" or asking for cliffs on what was going on. Clicking through some of these responses, it's quite clear that a huge % of them were responding to someone saying, "Hey bro, you're wolfy AF."
Spoiler:
Originally Posted by TheNothing
your whole entrance right here is wolfy imo
Originally Posted by lilrascal
I'm just trying to catch up a bit on the game while I'm on lunch break. No chance of catching up on the thread, but I did notice some drama going on with several people.
Originally Posted by lilrascal
Tom, should I shoot suq now or what for his possible peek?
This was in response to a very long post calling him out as "underwhelming." After 7,000 posts in a 69-player game, he had 4 villa reads.
Originally Posted by lilrascal
I play this game mostly by tone since I don't have a lot of time as I've said and you can see by my post count. I try to interact with people as it helps me wolf hunt better and clear myself.
I haven't played enough mish-mashes to get the mechanics and the multi-faction stuff going on here has got me confused.
This is where I'm at though:
Villas (based on what I've seen as trying to solve the game):
TTT
Digger
boner
Pimp
Don't really have my own unique wolf leans that aren't sponging thh.
Originally Posted by lilrascal
Thanks for actually reading my posts and not just asking me to defend why I wasn't here and then saying all I do is complain that I can't be in the thread.
I'm trying my best for the village here and it should be easier to keep up and contribute since the post count is going down and I won't be overwhelmed. (There I go again with the excuses, but RL is RL.)
Originally Posted by lilrascal
And he just posted terribly when it was his turn to get shot. It's basically all, "Hey, I haven't done much, but what I've done has been pro-villa. I've listened to the villa captains and done what I've been told to (i.e. shooting at outed wolves).
Spoiler:
Originally Posted by lilrascal
Yesterday I shot at Suq (dead wolf) in a crosspost that didn't count, then I shot at Leo (outted wolf) with a miss.
I also made a read on accobra as a villa when most had him as a wolf when asked to make some reads. Accobra flipped villa.
I made a shot tonight that I honestly don't remember who it was. It was directed by TTT (villa captian) and missed.
I've done what I can to help the villa.
Originally Posted by lilrascal
Read my post. It was asked what I contributed and there it is. It's not a lot, but it's all pro villa.
Originally Posted by lilrascal
Kill this guy if he shoots me.
Originally Posted by lilrascal
:thumb: Please do. I'm doing my best to help the village. I've only been pro-villa. Look at all of my posts if you don't believe me. There's much wolfier targets out there.
Originally Posted by lilrascal
Also, go look at digger's villas lists from I think EOD yesterday or start of today. He had me in his villa pile.
I'm here to answer questions and contribute the best I can.
They arent lynching pascal after you, they're lynching me after you. A final day with either one of us alive is far worse than a final day us both dead.
They arent lynching pascal after you, they're lynching me after you. A final day with either one of us alive is far worse than a final day us both dead.
Rascal's probably dying after me like 70%.
If you're a villager you're going to be in a really tough spot after I'm gone.
No one is going to bother to read this either, but I found some posts from Ong's most recent wolf game, and his villager game where we nommed him on D1 because he was playing so well.
Villager game
Spoiler:
Originally Posted by OngBonga
I'm pretty sure we should just blindly follow keith until we lynch a villager.
This one is post 51, tossing out those villa reads with serious DGAF swag:
Originally Posted by OngBonga
I got village reads on doobs, baudib and jkds. Everyone else is a wolf.
This is in response to JKDS saying Ong feels like a villager:
Originally Posted by OngBonga
So me towning you quickly on d1 doesn't alarm you?
Note that Ong knows he gave JKDS a town lean really quickly, so quickly he thinks it should be alarming to JKDS. He's both giving a read and testing JKDS.
Originally Posted by OngBonga
Hi bigred and aubrey. Have some villager points for sounding like villagers.
rescind
Originally Posted by OngBonga
Aw bless rong doesn't like my reaction to mojo laming a vague question at him. It's kinda cute that dan is still trying to read me when he knows he sucks at doing so. I've given up trying to read him.
And luco thinks I'm wolfy? Well that should prove to you I'm a villager, right?
I like this post because Ong is very playful here without being abrasive.
Originally Posted by OngBonga
Aubrey is a villager. She's the person who has nailed me as villager for exactly the right reason. I guess she could be a wolf who thinks I've already shown my hand and is buddying me, but I doubt it. I believe her.
Here's Aubrey's reason for saying Ong is a villager:
[QUOTE=aubreymcfate;2217015]I have no real reads *sigh*
ong would be more tense and less carefree if he was a wolf, which i base on my experience wolfing with him.
ong would be more tense and less carefree if he was a wolf
The feeling I get from Ong, as I have mentioned before, is that he's been awfully #tryhard from the beginning of the game, and even more so after the Luco lynch. We basically luck boxed the shit out of that lynch, and if you're a villager you know you were feeling pretty good about it. Ong's attitude and relentless drive to control the lynch seems off.
Here's where Ong gives his wolf reads:
Spoiler:
This one on MMM is like an hour into the game
Originally Posted by OngBonga
Haha MMM got wolf and he's already been found out.
Good luck buddy.
Originally Posted by OngBonga
Holy shit daven is a wolf. Props to those who sniffed him out.
Here is a response to Wuf, who says we should turbo lynch MMM, and then turbo lynch Daven.
Originally Posted by OngBonga
This is the least pro village thing I've seen posted so far.
Those posts from villager Ong are definitely carefree, fluid and spontaneous. He doesn't explain shit. He points out things that are villagery. His strongest wolf lean is Daven and he just says, "holy shit, Daven is a wolf! props to whoever pointed it out." He doesn't drone on and on "XYZ means Daven is a wolf, and ABC also means Daven is a wolf. Also, consider that 1-2-3 means Daven is super wolfy.
What Ong does as a wolf is he over explains things, and talks about things that don't matter at all
Here is Ong's early salvos at me, after I said that Boog was slightly wolfy after 1 post (where he said basically nothing). I already went through a bout with Luco (also a wolf) over this, and told everyone to STFU about it because it obviously wasn't even a thing.
This is how I caught Ong and basically the entire wolf team 60 posts into the game
Spoiler:
Originally Posted by OngBonga
How is boog slightly wolfy anyway? That's like saying drew is. boog's one and only post might is literally the nullest thing in the world. In fact, if you look up "null" in the dictionary, it'll say "boog votes jkds".
Originally Posted by OngBonga
baudib, I asked you this. Don't be rude now.
Originally Posted by baudib
Ong, do not make points about things you know are unimportant just to look like you are doing something.
Originally Posted by OngBonga
Nice dismissal. Is that how you're going to respond to questions that you don't want to answer?
Originally Posted by OngBonga
lynch baudib
Originally Posted by OngBonga
Here's where I'm at...
Wolf equity
Baudib 77%
Wufwugy 44%
Hoopy 35%
Luco 35%
Boog 31%
JKDS 28%
Bid 27%
Rong 22%
Rascal 15%
Gabe 11%
Rilla 5%
This post is classic Ong filling the airwaves with nothingness
Originally Posted by OngBonga
baudib I just wasn't going to let you ignore me.
Yeah you seem like a villager to me. But you can be a high content wolf, no sweat. I have no intention of actually lynching you today. I don't give a crap if you think I'm a wolf or not, what I do care about is that you're not allowed to brush off questions, no matter how trivial they might seem.
Why are hoopy luco and wuf the relevant subjects? Why not boog baudib ong? I'll have my own opinions about what i find interesting, tyvm.
Remember the Villager Ong, tossing out soul reads like free candy? He continues his attack on me for giving Rilla, Rilla of all fucking people, an early villager read. As if he thinks Rilla is some awesome wolf we should be worried about when he clearly entered the thread with mega villagery presence:
Ong actually bothers to argue with me about this when I made it clear I was never going to worry about him
Originally Posted by OngBonga
I generally agree with this. However, rilla is on papaer an outstanding wolf, he just needs enthusiasm. I don't think he'd have signed up if he wasn't prepared to give it a proper go as wolf. I'm not willing to town him all game on this alone.
Originally Posted by OngBonga
baudib you're doing an excellent job of sapping my enthusiasm already.
rilla is capable of wolfing. He might not have proven it to you, but there were games that happened before you existed.
Originally Posted by OngBonga
I've seen rilla win as wolf in my early days, I'm sure of it. There were also a ton of games before me where rilla was involved. He's vastly experienced. If you think you can just town him based on his enthusiasm, you're not showing him nearly the respect he deserves.
Villager Ong likes to freely give town reads as he sees fit. Wolf Ong warns people: Watch out for the big bad Rilla wolf.
Here are some choice posts from Ong this game. First off after trolling a few posts (role neutral), he makes it clear he thinks it's me and Gator based off nothing.
This is a long long awkward setup to make a point that villager Ong seems to make in like 8 words or less
Originally Posted by OngBonga
Ok baudib so why aren't I a villager lean? I mean I put my vote on everyone, then start rescinding those who I feel hint town. That seems like a solid town strategy to me. Why has that gone over your head? Why is drew a villager lean for being drew, while jkds goes ignored for probing like he does when he's a villager?
drew seems to me like a really easy person to casually throw a town read at. It feels to me like baudib is just trying to do what he thinks a villager should do. His villager read on drew feels like nothing more than a half arsed attempt to make it look like he's doing something.
But hey it's baudib and I always think he's a wolf who I can read like a book.
Double Day Unlimited Ong doesn't like it when people give other people thin villa reads apparently:
Originally Posted by OngBonga
Why would you lean villager with baudib on d1, who you yourself acknowledge is hard to figure out?
Ong very self-conscious of his standing in the village:
Originally Posted by OngBonga
Not so long ago gator you said I'm a villager. Now mojo jkds and baudib are above me. Have I said something to make you reconsider? Or did baudib say something really villagery that I missed? I can get the v reads on the other two.
Actively pushing Gator for having reads. Dude, it's Gator.
Originally Posted by OngBonga
To say he's leaning villager imples that you have an actual read on him, rather than an attempt to sort. It's not like you put him in the village camp in a list of players, you went as far as saying he's nearly as strong as v lean as mojo. There must be a reason for that.
Double Day Unlimited Ong doesn't like it when people give other people thin villa reads. This is in response to me saying Gator felt lighthearted and game solvey:
Originally Posted by OngBonga
gator went from methodical to irritated and defensive in an instant.
Originally Posted by OngBonga
You don't think that gator getting irritated so early on is noteworthy?
Fact is, I cant read you baudib. Idk what it is, but nothing i've ever seen you do has ever seemed villagery. What I do know is that a) you are tenacious, regardless of role, b) you do all sorts of shenanigans to prove you're a villager, regardless of role, and c) youre experienced enough to know all sorts of different methods of "hunting" that would help you fake being a villa.
So like, I see you post a giant ass wall about ong. And had that come from, say, Rascal, I might stop and say "hey, thats a shitton of work; rascal must be really excited about this and really think hes got a wolf here". But I know you've seen this kind of tactic in the past. So that puts you in this weird spot where I dont think I can ever find you villagery, because I know you're always trying to manipulate people into thinking you're a villager.
Whats worse, is i've heard many players (rascal, for instance) say things like "hard work = villager". I know this to be a common theme from my own experiences as well. So I have no doubt that if you were a wolf, that you'd be able to convince them and win the game.
1. It's pretty clear that the wolf bussed. Unless it's rascal, which I don't think is likely, but you guys are probably gonna kill him because there's literally no other mechanical info to go on.
2. IDFK about Ong, the thing I'd say in contrasting his villager and wolf games is he likes to try to get with more audacious shit as a wolf. Oddly enough, he posts in a third-level self-aware manner as a villager, saying things he knows will draw attention but just doesn't give a shit about.
for example:
"Aroooo, I mean quack" - villager
"Hey I just shot Keith in broad daylight for no reason, I'm obviously a villager because why the fuck would I do that as a wolf?! Obviously I wouldn't so you must lock clear me." - wolf
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