Sep 2015 Werewolf - Game thread

[Cory]

In terms of night actions

He can be useful ITT cause he's one of the good olds, LDO

[Cory]

I would guess the wolf didn't target rascal because most players with brains would guess he was probably telling the truth about being seer and there's an angel in the game

[BankItDrew]

Rascal is useless with the last wolf being a tailor

Every player in the game peeks as a villager, so what's even the point of thinking about it

Touche but what if rascal peeks a villager who was tailored?

If you think rascal is useless, your logic says rascal shouldn't even peek at night anymore because it could be the only hole in the village. Well, not the only hole, as the wolf could make it to the end, assuming we cease all power roles. I am stretched to see how that could be the best idea though.

[BankItDrew]

Ater re-reading my own post, I guess I'm wondering who is at an advantage PR wise? The vig could be killing villagers, the angel could be protecting the wolf, and so on...

[wufwugy]

Touche but what if rascal peeks a villager who was tailored?

we would have to lynch that player no matter what. which means that if he was tailored, our strategy involves giving the wolf extra outs.

rascal's power is worthless now.

[Cory]

Touche but what if rascal peeks a villager who was tailored?

If you think rascal is useless, your logic says rascal shouldn't even peek at night anymore because it could be the only hole in the village. Well, not the only hole, as the wolf could make it to the end, assuming we cease all power roles. I am stretched to see how that could be the best idea though.

What are you even talking about

The tailor just self-tailors every night in this situation

[Cory]

Ater re-reading my own post, I guess I'm wondering who is at an advantage PR wise? The vig could be killing villagers, the angel could be protecting the wolf, and so on...

How this is any different than any game?

Are you high?

[OngBonga]

Why haven't we won yet? Why hasn't rascal conceded? Why does he expect us to believe he wasn't roleblocked?

[OngBonga]

This game is stupid if rascal isn't the wolf, and I can't figure out why he wouldn't concede if he is.

I'm too drunk for this shit.

[OngBonga]

I mean not only did the actual fucking seer claim on d1, but the wolves actually didn't roleblokc the seer on n1.

Either that or rascal is trolling us.

Nothing makes sense.

[OngBonga]

Why am I the only person confused? Fuck you non confused people.

[OngBonga]

I figured it out.

Rascal was roleblocked, but the vig shot killed the roleblocker before the roleblocker roleblocked rascal.

That is literally ther only thing that makes sense.

[Cory]

I figured it out.

Rascal was roleblocked, but the vig shot killed the roleblocker before the roleblocker roleblocked rascal.

That is literally ther only thing that makes sense.

Roleblock goes before vig in order of operations

LOL right

Maybe Evene just never showed up and never submitted tho

[JKDS]

You're still on rascal huh. Two flips, and you're not even remotely interested in what that means for anyone else.

Rascal's the seer. No one has counterclaimed him. A counterclaim = a village win. Rascal's the seer.

Be perplexed all you want, but the more you sit there ignoring the night's actions the more wolfy you look.

[OngBonga]

JKDs did you miss the bit where I begged to be shot? I already look wolfy as fuck for trying to save hoopy, so I don't really give a fuck how much wolfier I look because I'm already a necessary lynch or vig shot. I'm good with that.

Why you on my case? You the wolf?

[wufwugy]

ong the game is already solved. rilla outed. stop hating urself so much

[OngBonga]

Roleblock goes before vig in order of operations

LOL right

Maybe Evene just never showed up and never submitted tho

This makes sense, and also implies the other wolf is not an FTR reg who would block the seer on eve's behalf. Pretty much everyone here sorts that out, right?

[OngBonga]

ong the game is already solved. rilla outed. stop hating urself so much

rilla outed what?

[OngBonga]

I love myself.

[wufwugy]

rilla outed what?

look at 1472 and 1475. he knows he's done, but he making us do it.

[OngBonga]

cory, if you're eve's buddy, you pm luco and ask him if you can roleblock on eve's behalf, right? I'm just trying to get into the head of noobs to this site. If I were eve's buddy, I'd be asking luco if I can block rascal on eve's behalf. I'd expect that to be ok. I'm not saying that's how luco would deal with it, just my expectations of it.

I think ship is the only person here who might fail to sort out the roleblock if eve is afk.

[OngBonga]

look at 1472 and 1475. he knows he's done, but he making us do it.

I'm not seeing what you're seeing.

[wufwugy]

unless rilla is trolling because we're so far ahead and he thinks we'll win no matter what. in which case i hope we lose so i can blame all things on him.

[wufwugy]

I'm not seeing what you're seeing.

"hey ong, are you a wolf who likes the color blue or a villager who likes the color red?"

"i'm not telling if im a wolf but i do like the color blue."

...

"hey ong wolves think turtles are cool, what do you think about turtles?"

"they're cool."

[wufwugy]

oh there's another post other than those two from a few pages back where i pointed out him saying "nah" was the wolf thing to do.

so yeah, those three posts show he knows he's a wolf.

[OngBonga]

rilla could well be in the same place as me. If he's vanilla, he'll realise he needs to be lynched or shot for the win.

I mean the longer rilla doesn't try to figure this out, the wolfier he looks. I'm not at all surpised if it's rilla. Neither am I surprised if it's not.

[OngBonga]

The fact rascal has claimed a successful lookup has really surprised me.

[OngBonga]

I mean as stubborn as I am, surely a fucking wolf claims to have been roleblocked.

idfk what is going on.

[Cory]

cory, if you're eve's buddy, you pm luco and ask him if you can roleblock on eve's behalf, right? I'm just trying to get into the head of noobs to this site. If I were eve's buddy, I'd be asking luco if I can block rascal on eve's behalf. I'd expect that to be ok. I'm not saying that's how luco would deal with it, just my expectations of it.

I think ship is the only person here who might fail to sort out the roleblock if eve is afk.

I try not to think about dumb shit like this and just lynch wolves

[OngBonga]

I try not to think about dumb shit like this and just lynch wolves

Oh. Well I like to smoke weed and drink cirder and think about dumb shit. Lynching wolves is a bonus. RIP hoopy.

[OngBonga]

Honestly, I hope it's not rilla. I want it to be someone that has a chance of winning. This has been too easy, and it's all the more annoying because I've been shit. I want to find the last one. Me.

[BankItDrew]

How this is any different than any game?

Are you high?

You see zero difference between PR values from the beginning of the game compared to PR values at this moment?

Are you you mentally handicapped? Did you eat paint chips after falling from the idiot tree?

gtfoh bub

[OngBonga]

I'm high.

[BankItDrew]

This game is stupid if rascal isn't the wolf, and I can't figure out why he wouldn't concede if he is.

I'm too drunk for this shit.

see JKDS' re: village winning if rascal is not the seer.

[Cory]

You see zero difference between PR values from the beginning of the game compared to PR values at this moment?

Are you you mentally handicapped? Did you eat paint chips after falling from the idiot tree?

gtfoh bub

We have a village vig! OMG OH NO WHAT IF HE HITS A VILLAGER!!?!?!?!?

We have a village angel! OMG WHAT IF HE PROTECTS A WOLF?!?!?!?!

Like seriously what are you even trying to say with that?

[wufwugy]

gotta be honest, i love that cory and bid have a thing.

this could blossom into something amazing in future games.

[BankItDrew]

We have a village vig! OMG OH NO WHAT IF HE HITS A VILLAGER!!?!?!?!?

We have a village angel! OMG WHAT IF HE PROTECTS A WOLF?!?!?!?!

Like seriously what are you even trying to say with that?

That the game is more random than you think it is.

[Cory]

What do you NOT understand about the tailor situation and the peek being meaningless, Drew?

I'd love to explain it to you but I'm at a loss as to what you're failing to understand.

[BankItDrew]

Cory's obv a theist

[BankItDrew]

What do you NOT understand about the tailor situation and the peek being meaningless, Drew?

I'd love to explain it to you but I'm at a loss as to what you're failing to understand.

I understand 100%.

Why is it my responsibility to prove a negative?

Theist

[Cory]

That the game is more random than you think it is.

WHAT IS SPECIAL ABOUT THE CURRENT SITUATION IRT TO VIG AND ANGELS

OR DID YOU JUST UNDERSTAND THAT SOMETIMES VIGILANTES CAN KILL VILLAGERS AND SOMETIMES ANGELS CAN PROTECT WOLVES*?

(* though I doubt in general it's all that common to have overlap between vig kills and angel targets since angels typically go for players likely to get NKed and vigis tend to target within the general PoE and it's not like a wolf will NK himself)

[OngBonga]

Are you guys just trying to confuse me more? What are you arguing about?

[OngBonga]

Fuck this.

Finc the wolf while I sleep, please.

[wufwugy]

[lilrascal]

Calm down Ong. I'll peek you tonight if that will make you feel better.

[wufwugy]

watch as you peek him while he gets tailored then you say he's a wolf and he uses that to say you're confirmed seer

[Cory]

Touche but what if rascal peeks a villager who was tailored?

If you think rascal is useless, your logic says rascal shouldn't even peek at night anymore because it could be the only hole in the village. Well, not the only hole, as the wolf could make it to the end, assuming we cease all power roles. I am stretched to see how that could be the best idea though.

Rather than have this conversation with you I am just going to have it with myself.



Cory: Well rascal is usless since the last wolf is the tailor, which means he can self-tailor every night and then every player peeks as a villager so you cannot at all differentiate between a tailored wolf and a peeked villager ever. No matter who lilrascal targets, he'll get a town result, like a naive seer role.



Drew: Yeah, but what if rascal peeks a villager who was tailored?



Cory: No.



Drew: If you think he's useless, he shouldn't even peek at night anymore!



Cory: It doesn't matter if he peeks at night or not. Who cares.



Drew: But now we have a big hole in the village!



Cory: No. We just ignore his peeks.



Drew: But now the vig and angel are liabilities! The vig could shoot a villager! Oh no!



Cory: ... That was always something that could happen. In any game with a vigilante. Ever.



Drew: WHY DIDN'T YOU THINK ABOUT THIS EARLIER !?!?!?!?



Cory:

[JKDS]

You did that in 7 minutes. Im impressed.

[lilrascal]

You did that in 7 minutes. Im impressed.

That's my son. I'm very proud of him.

[BankItDrew]

Rather than have this conversation with you I am just going to have it with myself.



Cory: Well rascal is usless since the last wolf is the tailor, which means he can self-tailor every night and then every player peeks as a villager so you cannot at all differentiate between a tailored wolf and a peeked villager ever. No matter who lilrascal targets, he'll get a town result, like a naive seer role.



Drew: Yeah, but what if rascal peeks a villager who was tailored?



Cory: No.



Drew: If you think he's useless, he shouldn't even peek at night anymore!



Cory: It doesn't matter if he peeks at night or not. Who cares.



Drew: But now we have a big hole in the village!



Cory: No. We just ignore his peeks.



Drew: But now the vig and angel are liabilities! The vig could shoot a villager! Oh no!



Cory: ... That was always something that could happen. In any game with a vigilante. Ever.



Drew: WHY DIDN'T YOU THINK ABOUT THIS EARLIER !?!?!?!?



Cory:

csb

[BankItDrew]

Cory: got it. Thanks

I'll think twice before trying to stir up conversation amongst the group.

[Cory]

<3 love you boo

[BankItDrew]

Cool video game btw

think we may have turned a corner.

Can i be in your villager camp now?

[Cory]

No, but we can lynch rilla first LDO

[ShipItUp]

rascal who you peek last night bruh

[ShipItUp]

rascal who you peek the night before bruh

[ShipItUp]

rascal i didn't realize the tailor was the only wolf left so ignore my last two questions bruh

[ShipItUp]

SuperMonkeyFace idk

Don't think it's BID or rilla

[ShipItUp]

hey qt

This is irrelevant, SIU hardbusses all the time, I've seen him singlehandedly lunch wolfbros with village trying to lynch villagers as a wolf more than once, it's a part of his wolf playstyle

There's a different reason why SIU wasn't bussing there

No

it is not part of my wolf playstyle

don't you dare qq me

[ShipItUp]

First two things that came to mind when I actually started thinking about the game today were
1)wuf doesn't make that giant fellatio post about hoopy as w/w
2)guerilla doesn't say he likes my list if he's a wolf, because it would mean my list had the wolves as the 1st, 3rd and 6th most wolfy players in the game. With him being the third. I've literally never seen a wolf say they liked a list where they were a wolf without even like a "pretty good list except i should be at the top obv" type of add-on too it.

[wufwugy]

nigga you listed rilla twice. that's why he liked your list.

[ShipItUp]

nigga you listed rilla twice. that's why he liked your list.

Yeah just noticed that lol, still think it was villagery tho.

[baudib]

lynch Rilla

[a500lbgorilla]

I'm the vig. Watch me not shoot myself tonight.

[gabe]

rescind rilla

sweet

[gabe]

pretty big swing from "hes a wolf" to "he killed a wolf!!!"

lynch baudib for lulz

[JKDS]

unvote

probably lynching BID then, but I wanna review the thread tomorrow morning and see if that really makes sense. I disagree with baudib though, and think BID's long post is both outta character and super wolfy.

[BankItDrew]

God damn it. I'm not looking so good here now... Someone please start a different wagon. I'm not the last wolf.

rescind

[JKDS]

pretty big swing from "hes a wolf" to "he killed a wolf!!!"

lynch baudib for lulz

I can totally see this, mainly because his spammy / 'in-yo-face' attitude this game isnt the same as last game. But theres reasons for that other than being a wolf, and his part in the hoopy lynch was pretty boss.

Its possible he bussed hoopy, but I feel like if Baudib were to bus there...that he'd bus eevee instead. Active hoopy being a greater asset than inactive eevee.

[baudib]

You're prob right

[JKDS]

I feel like these are the people we need to make a decision on

BID, Ong, and Monkeyface. Everyone else is cleared, lock cleared, or "really, you did that as a wolf?" cleared.

[baudib]

ha this blows now. Game probably going another week now

[gabe]

rescind baudib for lulz reasons
lynch baudib for srs
because he thinks it blows that we're bolding him. must be a wolf

[Kami]

honey im home

[baudib]

Glgl