Quote Originally Posted by MadMojoMonkey View Post
... and I offered my opinion as to why that is, but you didn't answer my question.
Specifically, the final line of my previous post.

I suspect that the general answer to your own question coincides with the reason that you have not followed those 5 steps.
(No judgement from me. Like I said, I'm a geek about this stuff.)

For what ever reason, I told you exactly how to do this, but you have not yet (given me any sign that you have) done it.
I suspect this is indicative of a common theme. Whatever your own reasons for not doing this are probably a lot of people's reasons for not doing it.


I mean... there's a lot of guess work when it comes to an actual calculation. You have to guess Villain's ranges for each decision point, and no one likes to know they're wasting time chasing down a solution based on a handful of guesses. However, it is by doing exactly this over and over that you build your skills in doing it. Eventually, you see all sorts of patterns in the calculations and you can make quick educated guesses as to the "ballpark" of the answer w/o doing the full calc. That's when the time spent studying transfers to live skills at the table.
Ok well i have paid attention to u but one problem i have had is this "Hero bluffs OTT, Villain folds:" I don't know how often V folds the turn. that was the whole point of this thread i want an equation that tells me how often they need to fold.