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    I'll probably give this a think if I have time but fancy giving me a quick answer to solve this problem. Hearthstone related obviously for those that play (I just started)

    If I have a win rate of x% how do I work out the likelihood of me winning a certain number of games given the conditions.

    If you lose 3 games you are finished.
    If you win 12 games you are finished.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ImSavy View Post
    I'll probably give this a think if I have time but fancy giving me a quick answer to solve this problem. Hearthstone related obviously for those that play (I just started)

    If I have a win rate of x% how do I work out the likelihood of me winning a certain number of games given the conditions.

    If you lose 3 games you are finished.
    If you win 12 games you are finished.
    You're asking your EV for the number of wins on an arena run, given your winrate.
    Let X be {winrate}.
    0 <= X <= 1

    Option 1: Your Arena run ends due to acquiring your 3rd loss
    For 3 <= N <= 14:
    (N - 1) matches produced (N - 3) wins and (2) losses, in whatever order, then the Nth match was your 3rd loss.
    EV(N,X) = C(N-1,N-3)*X^(N-3)*(1-X)^2 * (1-X)
    EV(N,X) = C(N-1,N-3)*X^(N-3)*(1-X)^3

    Option 2: Your Arena run ends due to you defeating the 12th opponent
    For 12 <= N <= 14
    EV(N,X) = C(N,N-12)*X^(12)*(1-X)^(N-12)


    ***
    I plugged this into Excel and I'm getting less than perfect results, so there's something wrong in there, but I don't see it.
    To clarify, for values of 0 < X < 35%, the sum of all of those results rounds to 100.00%
    For 35% < X < 64% the sum of all results is over by less than 1%
    The error reaches a maximum at X ~= 88%, where the sum of all probabilities is over 106%.

    Given these unexplained errors in the results, I show that you need a winrate of X > 80% to have more than 50% EV at winning 12 matches.

    ***
    If anyone sees the error in my analysis, let me know.


    EDIT: error found. I forgot to account for the fact that your final match is always a win in option 2.

    Correction:
    Option 2: Your Arena run ends due to you defeating the 12th opponent
    For 12 <= N <= 14
    EV(N,X) = C(N-1,N-12)*X^(12)*(1-X)^(N-12)

    The sum over both cases for all N yields 100% for any X.
    Last edited by MadMojoMonkey; 08-21-2016 at 03:11 AM.

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