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 Originally Posted by Poopadoop
You're implying that the political opinion 'we need to do something about it' somehow influenced the science, when it fact it was the science that led to the political opinion.
If scientists had begun with the hypothesis 'we need to do something' and then looked for evidence that something needed to be done, then found it, we'd be right to be suspicious. But that's a pretty weird idea.
The idea that something needs to be done about it (so to speak) does exist before evidence of climate change, but not in a scientific sense. This is more about ideologies that have been around for a very long time, like the environmentalist anti-capitalist type that more or less assumes anything that alters the environment to benefit human consumption is bad. But that isn't what you're referring to, so I'll not mention it further, just wanted to point it out.
I'm not sure I would say I'm implying the political opinion came before the scientific opinion, as you pointed out. It can be the case that the political opinion came after and also isn't a scientific opinion. The evidence for global warming is enough that scientists can give their scientific opinion on it, but where is the evidence for the results of global warming in the future? It's very slim. Does there exist a credible climate scientist who would claim that any models in use today that predict things like crop behavior 30 years from now are credible? I doubt it.
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