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    So alright, I'm bored of this now, I'll just pull out my trump card.

    By claiming to know that I can't know the future, you're claiming you do. You're saying that you have enough information to make the determination that it is impossible for me to know. Your position is defeated by paradox. Knowing that you can't know, that is knowing, and thus you can't know that you can't know.

    I'm making perfect sense, fwiw.
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    By claiming to know that I can't know the future, you're claiming you do.
    False. I'm claiming no-one can. Big difference.


    Quote Originally Posted by OngBonga View Post
    You're saying that you have enough information to make the determination that it is impossible for me to know. Your position is defeated by paradox. Knowing that you can't know, that is knowing, and thus you can't know that you can't know.

    I'm making perfect sense, fwiw.
    You're making infinite sense. Or 0 sense. Either way it works cause they're the same thing in your universe.

    I'm not claiming to know that any specific prediction you make about the future will be false. For all I know it may be true. What I'm claiming is that you can't make any such prediction with 100% certainty. I am claiming a previously unknown effect could arise that disproves your prediction, because what has not been observed is unknown to anyone.
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    Maths can help me out. What's the sum of all the possible negative and positive numbers?
    I'd like to think poop is working on this.
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    Haha I want MMM to answer.
    To solidify ImSavy's answer, that sum is 0 due to the fact that, while there are an uncountable infinity of numbers between any 2 numbers, there is always exactly a 1:1 mapping of any negative value to its positive counterpart. This holds equally true for the Complex numbers.

    ImSavy's note that summing over infinity can yield strange results, and sometimes those results can differ, depending on how the problem is conceived and solved is appropriate.
    E.g. it is rather easy to prove that the sum of all the positive integers is -1/12, and that result is used in certain QM solutions to yield accurate predictions. It's not intuitive at all, but it works.

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