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 Originally Posted by Jack Sawyer
Please post your evidence as to what is going on and why you think the way you do.
Mostly I'm just going with the "where there is smoke, there's fire" mentality. I don't believe this situation was imagined out of thin air. Also, I can't put my finger on the link right now, so believe this at your own risk, but I do remember reading that an abysmally low percentage, like 0.3 of the immigrant population has jobs. There's no way you can increase poverty without increasing crime, period.
Originally Posted by Jack Sawyer
Skimmed it, but the chart at the bottom that shows crime as relatively flat....doesn't jive with this one that I found.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crime_in_Sweden
In the Wiki chart, crime is up. It looks flatter than it is because all crimes are charted on the same scale. Sexual offenses go from 90-ish to 170-ish. That's almost double in 20 years. If it were really just a difference in how they keep score.....the line wouldn't be so gradual. there would be a steep increase in the year the rule changed, and then go flat from there.
Originally Posted by Jack Sawyer
As with everything, here is some more nuance
Poop and I debated this weeks ago, and this same article came up.
Prof. Sarnecki and his colleagues found that
75 per cent of the difference in foreign-born crime is accounted for by
income and neighbourhood, both indicators of poverty.
What accounts for the other 25%?
Also, this article really pisses me off because it just sort of decides middle way through to stop talking about rape specifically, and zoom out on crime as a whole. Once it does that, then it can blame the whole mess on poverty. And that's really not ok in my opinion since rape is less motivated by poverty than say murder and robbery.
Black people in America account for 50% of the murders and robberies in the US, even though they only account for 13% of the population. That's a disparity explained, at least mostly, by the disproportionate poverty experienced by black communities. If poverty affected all crimes equally, then black people should also account for 50% of the rapes and sexual assaults in the US. But yet, they don't.
Originally Posted by Jack Sawyer
I was dismissive of TEH RUSSIANS but then Michael Flynn resigned/got fired. Then there was a whole timeline of things that shouldn’t have happened. It’s a quite odd thing
I linked a report that the gov't put out on this. It seemed to conclude that the Russians are just pricks who liked to fuck with the US. They blame us for their doping trouble in the Olympics, and some other shit we did to piss them off. They have a grudge against Hillary and wanted to weaken her. The report even detailed some twitter hashtags and things that the russian gov't planned to do on election night after a Hillary victory. They never ever suspected Trump would win. All of their efforts were directed at Hillary. Unbelievably, CNN presented the link within a sentence that I'm paraphrasing - US Intelligence determines that Russians hacked democrats to help Trump
Trump could have hired a high school kid to hack Podesta. He didn't need Russian intelligence.
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