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    I wonder if the Democrats will field anybody who can win in 2020. What I'm getting at is how in 2012, all of the GOP potentials who were planning on running for president skipped to 2016. This includes Trump. Romney was only ever the best candidate of a bunch of schlubs.

    Given how easy it would be for any candidate in 2020 to anticipate having the fight of xir's life, getting forever nicknamed like Crooked did, I bet a lot of those who think they can win will just skip to 2024. However, if there is enough belief among the ctrl-left that Trump is weak, then some stronger candidates may opt to run 2020.

    If Bernie runs will he win the primary?
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    Quote Originally Posted by wufwugy View Post
    I wonder if the Democrats will field anybody who can win in 2020. What I'm getting at is how in 2012, all of the GOP potentials who were planning on running for president skipped to 2016. This includes Trump. Romney was only ever the best candidate of a bunch of schlubs.

    Given how easy it would be for any candidate in 2020 to anticipate having the fight of xir's life, getting forever nicknamed like Crooked did, I bet a lot of those who think they can win will just skip to 2024. However, if there is enough belief among the ctrl-left that Trump is weak, then some stronger candidates may opt to run 2020.

    If Bernie runs will he win the primary?
    I anticipate Bernie running against an otherwise weak field (not that there are any strong Democratic candidates vs. God Emperor), winning the primary and getting smoked in the general election.

    Bernie is basically Jeb Bush when it comes to charisma and the ability to debate and not be a total cuck. That is to say that he doesn't have a fucking chance in hell.

    And I think the Democratic establishment will let him do it so that he can crash and burn twice in a row, which would make him seem unelectable in 2024. I anticipate Pocahontas is going to be the one they all get behind next, but I don't think she can beat Bernie in primaries without the help of the DNC.

    If she does run and beat Bernie in 2020, Trump will have to pardon himself for murder once the debates are done. Hillary couldn't hang with him during the debates, and Warren is no Hillary Clinton.
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    Quote Originally Posted by spoonitnow View Post
    I anticipate Bernie running against an otherwise weak field (not that there are any strong Democratic candidates vs. God Emperor), winning the primary and getting smoked in the general election.

    Bernie is basically Jeb Bush when it comes to charisma and the ability to debate and not be a total cuck. That is to say that he doesn't have a fucking chance in hell.

    And I think the Democratic establishment will let him do it so that he can crash and burn twice in a row, which would make him seem unelectable in 2024. I anticipate Pocahontas is going to be the one they all get behind next, but I don't think she can beat Bernie in primaries without the help of the DNC.

    If she does run and beat Bernie in 2020, Trump will have to pardon himself for murder once the debates are done. Hillary couldn't hang with him during the debates, and Warren is no Hillary Clinton.
    I lol'd at pardon for murder.

    I generally agree with the Bernie stuff, but I'm still more sanguine on his chances in a general election. He plays to a big part of the crowd that Trump plays to, and I don't think enough voters are afraid of socialism like they were back when the 70s and 80s revealed it to be so destructive and everybody wised up for the subsequent decades.

    About Warren, I always thought she was the Dems preferred "Bernie". But she didn't run. Against Trump, if she would be able to not get flustered (a big IF), she would be a strong candidate IMO. I mean, I used to ADORE her. Lots of Democrats love her.
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    Quote Originally Posted by wufwugy View Post
    I lol'd at pardon for murder.

    I generally agree with the Bernie stuff, but I'm still more sanguine on his chances in a general election. He plays to a big part of the crowd that Trump plays to, and I don't think enough voters are afraid of socialism like they were back when the 70s and 80s revealed it to be so destructive and everybody wised up for the subsequent decades.

    About Warren, I always thought she was the Dems preferred "Bernie". But she didn't run. Against Trump, if she would be able to not get flustered (a big IF), she would be a strong candidate IMO. I mean, I used to ADORE her. Lots of Democrats love her.
    Do you remember when BLM protested the Bernie rally, and he just stepped back and let them take the podium and call him a racist and all of his supporters racist and all of that goofy shit?

    The man literally marched with MLK, and he still didn't have the balls to stand up to those goofballs. The man would have no chance whatsoever standing up to Trump. He would get bulldozed with no regard for human life.

    And personally, I'd pay to see Warren vs. Trump because she's a great match-up for him stylistically. She's basically an inferior Clinton.
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    Do you remember when BLM protested the Bernie rally, and he just stepped back and let them take the podium and call him a racist and all of his supporters racist and all of that goofy shit?
    How could I forget?

    The man literally marched with MLK, and he still didn't have the balls to stand up to those goofballs. The man would have no chance whatsoever standing up to Trump. He would get bulldozed with no regard for human life.
    I think my fear is that cuckery is just too popular. Like, there might just be enough people who PREFER weakness. Isn't Canada already beyond that, you know with Fidel Trudeau?
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    Quote Originally Posted by wufwugy View Post
    How could I forget?



    I think my fear is that cuckery is just too popular. Like, there might just be enough people who PREFER weakness. Isn't Canada already beyond that, you know with Fidel Trudeau?
    The three key factors as I see them:

    1. White women won't vote for Bernie.
    2. He'd dominate the black vote, but that's a given anyway.
    3. Bernie's biggest supporters are young, but the new breed that will be able to vote in 2020 are much more conservative than anyone was expecting.
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    Quote Originally Posted by spoonitnow View Post
    2. He'd dominate the black vote, but that's a given anyway.
    Would he?

    He might get a high % of votes, but I think he would have turnout problems.

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