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    Ong, instead of formulating a definition that fully encompasses what I mean by "fit for office", instead I'd like to ask you what you think the purpose is of parading around Trump's supposed business success, or for that matter any politician's accomplishments?

    If these claims aren't meant to bolster the notion that the politician is a good fit for the office they seek, I can't figure out what purpose they serve.
  2. #2
    Quote Originally Posted by boost View Post
    Ong, instead of formulating a definition that fully encompasses what I mean by "fit for office", instead I'd like to ask you what you think the purpose is of parading around Trump's supposed business success, or for that matter any politician's accomplishments
    So the next time you apply for a job, and the hiring manager asks to see your resume, just say "you don't need it, it could be fake, it has nothing to do with my fitness for this position"

    Good luck
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    Quote Originally Posted by BananaStand View Post
    So the next time you apply for a job, and the hiring manager asks to see your resume, just say "you don't need it, it could be fake, it has nothing to do with my fitness for this position"

    Good luck
    If you follow through with your analogies, you might realize that they don't actually support your case. Resumes are regularly embellished, but within reason. To safe guard against rampant over the top embellishment which would render all resumes useless, employers do some level of follow up.

    The point of me asking Ong (and anyone who cares to answer) what the purpose of touting your accomplishments when being considered for a position is, is to show that you actually do think the phrase "fit for office" has meaning and is relevant to the the topic at hand.

    Now I could be wrong, you guys could be going on about his business success for an unrelated reason, but that's a hard claim to make and have it mesh with the posts made ITT.
    Last edited by boost; 02-26-2018 at 04:16 PM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by boost View Post
    If you follow through with your analogies, you might realize that they don't actually support your case
    *sigh*....be smarter.

    Resumes are regularly embellished, but within reason
    Ok, Trump's probably isn't any different, what's your point??

    To safe guard against rampant over the top embellishment which would render all resumes useless, employers do some level of follow up.
    Ok, so follow up. Verify his claims of wealth with other entities that track this shit, like Forbes, and Bloomberg. Trump says he owns buildings. That's easily verified. His name is on them. Real estate records clearly show that he owns billions of dollars worth of real estate. Television ratings and book sales are also public information.

    What kind of follow up would you like? Tax returns? Those are just as embellished as his resume, just in the opposite direction. Plus, I find it hard to believe that you'd even have a clue what you're looking at if you did see his tax returns. You'd have to rely on someone like Forbes, or Bloomberg to tell you whether it's good or bad. And since you're convinced that they are lying liars, and won't believe anything they say (unless it's bad, lol)....why should Trump bother show his tax returns?

    You've made it abundantly clear that you wouldn't understand them, and you wouldn't believe any explanation presented to you. So why should anyone try to convince you? Just go vote democrat with the other mindless agnostic drones

    The point of me asking Ong (and anyone who cares to answer) what the purpose of touting your accomplishments when being considered for a position is, is to show that you actually do think the phrase "fit for office" has meaning and is relevant to the the topic at hand.
    No that's not your point. That's never been your point. It might be your point now that your agenda of agnosticism has been shot down as totally absurd.

    But who ever claimed that "fit for office" is an irrelevant notion?? Who are you even arguing against??

    Of course fitness for office matters. However, your arguments for remaining agnostic regarding Trump's fitness are not just uninformed, naive, and stubborn. They are also so vague and empty, that they could be applied to any human being on earth.

    Was Hillary fit for office? How do you know? What accomplishments as a Senator or Secretary of State would you point to? What's on her resume that makes her fit for office?

    Was Bernie fit for office? Was he financially successful? Did he do anything notable as a Senator?

    What about the homeless guy ranting at a fire hydrant about entitlement reform? How do you know he's not a former congressman who once headed a Fortune 100 firm?

    Now I could be wrong, you guys could be going on about his business success for an unrelated reason, but that's a hard claim to make and have it mesh with the posts made ITT.
    I can't believe this isn't clear to you

    Trump is a successful business man. That claim is supported by a mountain of evidence cited ITT. It's also supported by common sense and obvious truths. There is no way that he could be as successful as he is, for as long as he has been, without possessing high intelligence and extraordinary executive skills. Those are prominent pillars in his "fitness for office".
    Last edited by BananaStand; 02-26-2018 at 05:05 PM.

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