Ok here's how I saw it...
thread... should i have a flatting range? what about bet size and should it differ?
me... no, 12bb and no
savy... oskar says you're wrong about shoving not being profitable
me... whatever, you're losing value by shoving
savy - you're not contributing to my thread
ong - butthurt
savy - waa waa
ong - waa waa