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  1. #1
    Quote Originally Posted by TheSpoonald View Post
    shut up while the other one is talking.
    Lol I know it's outrageous how respectful they are of each other.



    Quote Originally Posted by TheSpoonald View Post
    And that bearded guy is a retard. He starts off by talking about how Don Jr was welcoming Russian delegates offering dirt on Hillary.
    The other guy responds that Hillary did the same thing with the Steele dossier. But I guess because he didn't call the other guy a douchebag it's not a fair argument.
  2. #2
    Quote Originally Posted by Poopadoop View Post
    The other guy responds that Hillary did the same thing with the Steele dossier.
    That should be the end of the show then. Either they are both colluding with Russians, or neither of them are. Make up your mind.

    There's actually no room for honest disagreement on this subject.

    Accepting oppo research from a foreign government is a bad idea because it could be bad information, it could have unintended consequences, and you can't be sure of the foreign government's true motives. Fine. I agree with that.

    Hillary accepted oppo reasearch from a foreign government, and all of the worst fears were realized. The Russians were successful in undermining our government's effectiveness for two years simply by making up stories to give to Steele.

    And Trump is the bad guy here....why?
  3. #3
    Quote Originally Posted by TheSpoonald View Post
    That should be the end of the show then. Either they are both colluding with Russians, or neither of them are. Make up your mind.

    There's actually no room for honest disagreement on this subject.

    Accepting oppo research from a foreign government is a bad idea because it could be bad information, it could have unintended consequences, and you can't be sure of the foreign government's true motives. Fine. I agree with that.

    Hillary accepted oppo reasearch from a foreign government, and all of the worst fears were realized. The Russians were successful in undermining our government's effectiveness for two years simply by making up stories to give to Steele.

    And Trump is the bad guy here....why?
    Ted Bundy killed a bunch of people. Why is anyone upset that Charles Manson killed people? Why is he a bad guy?
  4. #4
    Quote Originally Posted by Poopadoop View Post
    Ted Bundy killed a bunch of people. Why is anyone upset that Charles Manson killed people? Why is he a bad guy?
    Was one victimized by an illegal witch hunt that undermined the policy agenda for the entire country while the other was allowed to skate???

    That's a shit analogy.
  5. #5
    Quote Originally Posted by TheSpoonald View Post
    Was one victimized by an illegal witch hunt that undermined the policy agenda for the entire country while the other was allowed to skate???

    That's a shit analogy.
    You can't have it both ways. Either they're both guilty or they're both not. One doesn't get a 'witch hunt' while the other 'skates'. At most, one gets investigated because he won and is now POTUS and the other doesn't get investigated because she lost and is now living in the woods keeping her mouth shut.
  6. #6
    Also there's the question of obstruction of justice. Hillary hasn't been caught trying to fire people to keep them from investigating her wrondoings, Trump has been blatant about it.
  7. #7
    Quote Originally Posted by Poopadoop View Post
    Also there's the question of obstruction of justice. Hillary hasn't been caught trying to fire people to keep them from investigating her wrondoings, Trump has been blatant about it.
    No, she just threatened rape victims into silence.

    And Trump never fired anybody in order to prevent or encumber any investigation. That's an imagined talking point. We know this because no firing ever resulted in any diminished effectiveness or any investigation. We also know that Trump could have fired people to stop the investigation (namely Mueller), and did not do so.
  8. #8
    Quote Originally Posted by TheSpoonald View Post
    No, she just threatened rape victims into silence.
    Has this been proven? 'Cause it sounds like a crime to me.


    Quote Originally Posted by TheSpoonald View Post
    And Trump never fired anybody in order to prevent or encumber any investigation. That's an imagined talking point.
    He fired Comey, tried to fire Mueller, tried to order Sessions to make a statement and change the nature of the investigation. That's all real.
  9. #9
    Quote Originally Posted by Poopadoop View Post
    He fired Comey, tried to fire Mueller, tried to order Sessions to make a statement and change the nature of the investigation. That's all real.
    Is any of that illegal?

    PS-I believe I've already explained the fallacy inherent in saying "tried to fire Mueller". He didn't need to "try". He could have, and didn't.
  10. #10
    Quote Originally Posted by TheSpoonald View Post
    Is any of that illegal?

    PS-I believe I've already explained the fallacy inherent in saying "tried to fire Mueller". He didn't need to "try". He could have, and didn't.
    Obstruction of justice is illegal yes.

    No, actually he couldn't have fired Mueller. He didn't have the authority. At best he could fire people until he found someone who was willing to fire Mueller, ala Saturday Night Massacre. That he didn't shows that he wasn't as desperate as Nixon, not that he didn't try to obstruct justice.
  11. #11
    yeah, this might be slimy, but it isn't going to stand up in court as a 'threat'.

    Broaddrick first spoke out about Hillary Clinton's attempts to silence her in 1999, when she told the Drudge Report that Hillary Clinton approached her at a political rally to thank her for keeping quiet about the alleged assault.

    "She caught me and took my hand and said, 'I am so happy to meet you. I want you to know that we appreciate everything you do for Bill,'" Broaddrick recalled. "I started to turn away and she held onto my hand and reiterated her phrase—looking less friendly and repeated her statement—'everything you do for Bill.'"

    Broaddrick said Hillary Clinton wouldn't let her "get away until she made her point."

    "She talked low, the smile faded on the second thank you," Broaddrick continued. "I just released her hand from mine and left the gathering."
  12. #12
    Quote Originally Posted by Poopadoop View Post
    yeah, this might be slimy, but it isn't going to stand up in court as a 'threat'.
    Thank you for making my case that Trump isn't any slimier than anyone else

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