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[Poopadoop]

Are you telling me that McGahn was willing to quit his job rather than do something he couldn't do anyway?

Reductio ad bananum. I never said anything like that.

I said Trump told McGahn to fire Mueller and McGahn said no.

Doesn't it ever get boring attributing things to people they never said?

[TheSpoonald]

Reductio ad bananum. I never said anything like that.

I said Trump told McGahn to fire Mueller and McGahn said no.

Doesn't it ever get boring attributing things to people they never said?

Actually McGahn said "no, and I'm going to quit if you try and make me"

How exactly that stopped Trump from firing Mueller is what I don't understand. McGahn has no power. He was just trying to keep himself out of the shitstorm that would inevitably follow such a move. That's just him making a smart career move. Let someone else sink in that swamp.

All Trump had to do was say "ok, then quit, or you're fired, or whatever, just get the fuck out so I can get someone else to do it"

Where are you getting that McGahn couldn't fire Mueller? More importantly, how does that show that Trump "tried to fire Mueller". That's what I'm not getting....if he tried....why did he fail? What stopped him? What thwarted him?

What you're really saying is that Trump came close to firing Mueller, and didn't. And I can't figure out why that make Trump a worse retard/criminal than anyone else in politics.

[Poopadoop]

Actually McGahn said "no, and I'm going to quit if you try and make me".

So, Trump didn't know McGahn didn't have the power to fire Mueller. So he tried to get Mueller fired, he just didn't insist on it to the point of firing anyone who refused to do it for him. So, his intention was to fire Mueller and he only backed off that intention when he dozily realised it would just make things worse.

why that make Trump a worse retard/criminal than anyone else in politics.

Because even I knew only Rosenstein could fire Mueller. And I'm not POTUS. What isn't retarded about that?

[TheSpoonald]

So, Trump didn't know McGahn didn't have the power to fire Mueller.

McGahn did. either directly, or indirectly through rosenstein. Have fun splitting that hair. If McGahn didn't have the power to do that....then he wouldn't threaten to resign rather than get involved. He could have just said "hey not my bag man, try someone else".

So he tried to get Mueller fired, he just didn't insist on it to the point of firing anyone who refused to do it for him.

So what you're saying is that he *could have* fired Mueller and didn't. Do you see how that's different than trying and failing?

So, his intention was to fire Mueller and he only backed off that intention when he dozily realised it would just make things worse.

So a President, under unfair attack, while sitting in the most stressful job in the universe decided had an unwise impulse but deferred to his counsel. And that's it. How many times did you have to put that through the spin cycle for it to sound like ORANGE MAN BAD

[Poopadoop]

McGahn did. either directly, or indirectly through rosenstein. Have fun splitting that hair. If McGahn had not power to do that....then he wouldn't resign rather than get involved. He could have just said "hey not my bag man, try someone else".

But he did resign. So ya, basically Trump tried to use McGahn to fire Mueller and instead he resigned.

So what you're saying is that he *could have* fired Mueller and didn't. Do you see how that's different than trying and failing?

You're defense is that he didn't try as hard as he could?

I'd love to see you as a defense attorney - "Sure your honor, my client shot at the victim in an attempted murder. But when he ran out of bullets, at least he didn't go out and buy some more."

So a President, under unfair attack, while sitting in the most stressful job in the universe decided to listen to his counsel. And that's it. How many times did you have to put that through the spin cycle for it to sound like ORANGE MAN BAD

That poor man, so pure and innocent and people keep finding things he did wrong.