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  1. #1
    Quote Originally Posted by TheSpoonald View Post
    You keep using the word "intervening" like he did something improper. You know Trump is the chief executive and commander-in-chief, right? You know that running the executive branch, including the military, is exactly his job, right? You know that if something wrong was happening within the executive branch, it is exactly his job to fix it, right?

    Also, I don't see why you have a problem with this Navy Seal guy getting a fair trial. Seriously, what is that about? You've already judged this guy guilty and you think he should burn. Fine, that's your opinion, and you're welcome to root for that outcome. But please tell me why this guy should not be allowed to have his 4th, 5th, and 6th amendment constitutional rights while his trial is pending? Explain that to me please??

    Oskar.....don't use bullshit inflammatory language to try and make yourself sound smarter. Don't tell me "Trump intervened". I want you to tell me *EXACTLY* what Trump did that offends you. What *specific* act did Trump commit that you believe is improper, unjust, and immoral?

    All I see is a man entitled to the presumption of innocence and a fair trial. Trump seems to simply be ensuring that is the case. To my knowledge, he hasn't made any apologies for the guy. He hasn't tried to get him off the hook. He's not pardoning the guy. He hasn't come out and said "this guy is getting railroaded by corrupt democrats".

    All Trump has done is ensure a fair trial. Please tell me what is wrong with that. I want to know exactly what you think Trump should have done instead. And I want to know why you think the Navy Seal should be denied the right to simple tenets of justice like the presumption of innocence, and access to an attorney.

    .
    First, no-one is able to find corroboration of your story that the guy was forced to eat faeces while standing at attention 24 hours a day or whatever you said infringed on his rights.

    Second, Trump himself did not say he was intervening in the interests of a fair trial. His stated reasons were very different, and could easily be construed as 'hey let's go easy on this alleged kid-killer, for MAGA reasons'.

    So the argument remains: Trump openly stated it was a good idea to kill the families of terrorists, and now is intervening on behalf of a person who allegedly took his statement to its logical conclusion. If you have evidence to the contrary from an independent, unbiased source, please share it with us.
  2. #2
    Quote Originally Posted by Poopadoop View Post
    Second, Trump himself did not say he was intervening in the interests of a fair trial. His stated reasons were very different, and could easily be construed as 'hey let's go easy on this alleged kid-killer, for MAGA reasons'.
    What did he say? Tell me *exactly* what he said and why you think it means he is just a sicko racist murderer. Explain to me how it's impossible to consider any more complex level of thought.
  3. #3
    Quote Originally Posted by TheSpoonald View Post
    What did he say? Tell me *exactly* what he said and why you think it means he is just a sicko racist murderer. Explain to me how it's impossible to consider any more complex level of thought.
    nevermind, you'll just fuck it up.
    https://www.navytimes.com/news/your-...r-crimes-case/

    here is trump's tweet
    In honor of his past service to our Country, Navy Seal #EddieGallagher will soon be moved to less restrictive confinement while he awaits his day in court. Process should move quickly! @foxandfriends @RepRalphNorman
    Where in there are a you reading "hey let's go easy on this kid for Maga reasons"????
    Officials have not responded to questions about what the president’s order means for Gallagher and even the SEAL’s legal team indicated they’re still learning what it all means.
    Sounds like the Navy could use you and your awesome powers of translation. America needs you poop!!!!
  4. #4
    Quote Originally Posted by TheSpoonald View Post

    Where in there are a you reading "hey let's go easy on this kid for Maga reasons"????
    Where in there are you reading "This guy's rights are being infringed on. This is wrong and I'm stepping in in the interests of a fair trial."
  5. #5
    Quote Originally Posted by Poopadoop View Post
    Where in there are you reading "This guy's rights are being infringed on. This is wrong and I'm stepping in in the interests of a fair trial."
    https://www.foxnews.com/us/navy-seal...lawyers-allege

    Among the restrictions, his attorneys say:

    Requiring him to be in “full uniform of the day at all times between reveille and taps,” and not allowing him to put on civilian clothing “at any time.”
    Restricting Gallagher’s movement so his only meal options are “a vending machine and a limited selection of processed food” sold at a convenience store on-site.
    Gallagher cannot call or video chat with his wife and children – who are living in Florida – unless he is “in the presence of a command representative or defense attorney.”
    Gallagher cannot drive or be driven to his defense team’s offices. He can contact them through a phone outside of his room, but only under the supervision of a command representative or watchstander. Parlatore says this means Gallagher “cannot engage in privileged communication… while a third party is present” and “prohibits him from assisting in the preparation of his own defense.”
  6. #6
    1. That doesn't answer my question. You're simply drawing an inference as to why Trump intervened.

    2. I asked for an independent, UNBIASED source. Try again.
  7. #7
    Quote Originally Posted by Poopadoop View Post
    2. I asked for an independent, UNBIASED source. Try again.
    OMG fuck off.
  8. #8
    Quote Originally Posted by Poopadoop View Post
    Where in there are you reading "This guy's rights are being infringed on. This is wrong and I'm stepping in in the interests of a fair trial."
    I asked you to back up your claim first. Where are you reading "let's go easy on the kid for maga reasons"?
  9. #9
    Quote Originally Posted by TheSpoonald View Post
    I asked you to back up your claim first. Where are you reading "let's go easy on the kid for maga reasons"?
    I laid out the argument for you above. Go back and read it again. Use a dictionary if you need one.
  10. #10
    Quote Originally Posted by Poopadoop View Post
    I laid out the argument for you above.
    No you didn't. Fuck off.
  11. #11
    Quote Originally Posted by TheSpoonald View Post
    What did he say? Tell me *exactly* what he said and why you think it means he is just a sicko racist murderer. Explain to me how it's impossible to consider any more complex level of thought.
    We all know exactly we he said. Something along the lines of 'terrorists use their families as human shields, so you have to take out their families.' And some other incoherent nonsense which is uninterpretable.

    The statement in itself doesn't mean he's racist, but it certainly doesn't help his case. There's plenty of other evidence that he's racist.
  12. #12
    Quote Originally Posted by Poopadoop View Post
    We all know exactly we he said. Something along the lines of 'terrorists use their families as human shields, so you have to take out their families.' And some other incoherent nonsense which is uninterpretable.
    wow, you are all over the place huh? I know you're in a later time zone than I am but isn't it still early to be this drunk??

    I asked you what Trump tweeted about the Navy Seal guy. You're going back to the already-debunked Oskar-nonsense that says Trump likes to snuff out arab toddlers.

    Pay attention
  13. #13
    Quote Originally Posted by TheSpoonald View Post
    Attachment 1119
    I asked you what Trump tweeted about the Navy Seal guy.
    To be fair, you weren't specific about which tweet you were referring to. Sorry I can't read your mind; try to be clear from now on.
  14. #14
    Quote Originally Posted by Poopadoop View Post
    To be fair, you weren't specific about which tweet you were referring to. Sorry I can't read your mind; try to be clear from now on.
    PAY FUCKING ATTENTION

    Trump said "you have to take out families" on TV, not on Twitter.

    The only way you could be confused about this is if you're stupendously drunk, or your IQ is 70
  15. #15
    Quote Originally Posted by TheSpoonald View Post
    PAY FUCKING ATTENTION

    Trump said "you have to take out families" on TV, not on Twitter.

    Attachment 1119
    Did he? Oh ok then. He was only racist on TV not on twitter (that time).
  16. #16
    Quote Originally Posted by Poopadoop View Post
    So the argument remains: Trump openly stated it was a good idea to kill the families of terrorists, and now is intervening on behalf of a person who allegedly took his statement to its logical conclusion. If you have evidence to the contrary from an independent, unbiased source, please share it with us.
    You don't actually mean this. Fuck off.
  17. #17
    Quote Originally Posted by TheSpoonald View Post
    Fuck off.
    "I have no better arguments" he explained.
  18. #18
    Quote Originally Posted by Poopadoop View Post
    "I have no better arguments" he explained.
    I do, you're just being a stubborn dick hole about it on purpose. I'm not falling for it.

    Eat shit
  19. #19
    Quote Originally Posted by TheSpoonald View Post
    You're right I don't have any better arguments, and now I'm angry that you've pointed it out.

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    fyp
  20. #20
    Quote Originally Posted by Poopadoop View Post
    fyp
    I hope you fall down some stairs today
  21. #21
    Quote Originally Posted by TheSpoonald View Post
    I hope you fall down some stairs today
    That's sweet, thanks.

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