*** The Official MAGAposting thread ***

[MadMojoMonkey]

Also, MMM, your stance on that video of those two spazzes is baffling.

As Poop pointed out, legality and morality do not have a total overlap.

Also, the one filming could be lashing out from a totally selfish place (she wanted TP and didn't get any), but the way she is acting out further's the greater good.

I'm saying they're both acting badly.

What greater good? The woman is actively loading her purchase into her truck.
What was accomplished aside from making a bunch of internet droolers white knight over the TP lady?

No one's being shamed into not hoarding because of that video. Hoarding is a perfectly normal human response to scarcity. The news told us that TP is scarce and people went and reacted in a predictable way.

There's no moral right, here, IMO.

The TP lady was within her civil rights to purchase goods with her money.
The camera lady is within her civil rights to film in public. (Though what she's doing is bordering on harassment, IMO.)

Whether or not it was moral is beside the point. Who TF is the camera lady to jump on a soap box and take the moral high ground over this? Who's following her around with a camera and calling her out? Bet it's not a long wait before you see her do something the internet can froth over how immoral it was.

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I'm saying they're both acting badly.

What greater good? The woman is actively loading her purchase into her truck.
What was accomplished aside from making a bunch of internet droolers white knight over the TP lady?

No one's being shamed into not hoarding because of that video. Hoarding is a perfectly normal human response to scarcity. The news told us that TP is scarce and people went and reacted in a predictable way.

There's no moral right, here, IMO.

The TP lady was within her civil rights to purchase goods with her money.
The camera lady is within her civil rights to film in public. (Though what she's doing is bordering on harassment, IMO.)

Whether or not it was moral is beside the point. Who TF is the camera lady to jump on a soap box and take the moral high ground over this? Who's following her around with a camera and calling her out? Bet it's not a long wait before you see her do something the internet can froth over how immoral it was.

Is there no moral right here, or is morality besides the point? You haven't established that there's no moral high ground here, you've just stated it.

The interest of the greater good is that unnecessary hoarding does not occur. I outlined the costs of hoarding on society.

Nothing is accomplished in this instance, but shame plays a crucial role in societies. If you're putting your money on more likely/just as likely, I'll take less likely to continue hoarding all day and print money. But that's not the big win, the big win is that those viewing this who had no opinion are going to be less likely to hoard.

On the flip side, being a busybody is look down upon-- but it's always dependent on circumstances. If you attempt to shame someone when it's not called for, you'll be labeled a busybody, you'll be told to mind your own business, and you'll be the one being shamed. That's because a society doesn't have the energy to police every minor transgression.

Now where is the line? I'm not sure, but as I said before, a few cases, and I probably am thinking "what's this busy body's problem?" Yet I think ~20 cases is egregious. I understand that we may not agree on where the line is, but if you think there is no line, that public shaming doesn't serve a function in society, I think you're simply confused.

p.s. making the semantic shift from "legal" to "civil right" doesn't change anything. There are plenty of shameful and amoral things I can legally do-- things that I should and would be shamed for, and society would be better for my being shamed.