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    Quote Originally Posted by poop
    The next great superpower will be China regardless of what happens in space.
    I think you're being hasty by dismissing the impact space control will have. If China become more powerful than USA next year, then USA "take control" of space in the context of being able to go there at will, and stop others from doing so, then USA reclaim their status as the most powerful.

    They don't need to fight any wars or control space to gain that status
    You think USA will just roll over? China already engaged in an economic war with USA, and it's not out of the question that it's further escalated than we're aware of. Their numbers mean nothing, other than we can't invade them. But this isn't the 1900s where invading a country was the way to defeat them. Regime change and enforced US-friendly democracy is the modern way.

    And the Chinese are certainly not going to invade USA, you're right to observe there's nothing for China to gain. What China want is to hurt USA economically. But they also need to be able to stop USA hurting them economically if they are to remain more powerful, and that's why space is important, both from a military pov and an economic one.

    We're talking 50-100 years here before space is the prime factor when it comes to the balance of power, imo.
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    Quote Originally Posted by OngBonga View Post
    I think you're being hasty by dismissing the impact space control will have. If China become more powerful than USA next year, then USA "take control" of space in the context of being able to go there at will, and stop others from doing so, then USA reclaim their status as the most powerful.
    How's that? Because they own space? How does that keep China from invading Vietnam, say? They'll block their Netflix?



    Quote Originally Posted by OngBonga View Post
    You think USA will just roll over?
    I think it doesn't matter if they roll over or start a war or implode. It's inevitable the way things are going.


    Quote Originally Posted by OngBonga View Post
    China already engaged in an economic war with USA, and it's not out of the question that it's further escalated than we're aware of. Their numbers mean nothing, other than we can't invade them. But this isn't the 1900s where invading a country was the way to defeat them. Regime change and enforced US-friendly democracy is the modern way.
    Yeah how's that been working out for the US lately? Can you name one country they installed a friendly government in since WWII that isn't just a corrupt wasteland now? Let's see, there's Chile, Iran, Iraq, Afganistan...nope, all corrupt.

    And in any case, you haven't made a case for how the Space Force will enact regime change afaik. I think you're going to need some mind-control space drugs for that.



    Quote Originally Posted by OngBonga View Post
    And the Chinese are certainly not going to invade USA, you're right to observe there's nothing for China to gain. What China want is to hurt USA economically. But they also need to be able to stop USA hurting them economically if they are to remain more powerful, and that's why space is important, both from a military pov and an economic one.
    Yeah cause so much of China's GDP will depend on controlling space. Like at least one-tenth of one percent.


    Quote Originally Posted by OngBonga View Post
    We're talking 50-100 years here before space is the prime factor when it comes to the balance of power, imo.
    It will never be the prime factor. This is the same argument people made about the air force in the 1920s. They were saying you could just bomb the other sides' cities to smithereens and they would rise up against their gov't and end the war. It wasn't true then about the air force and it's not true now about the space force.
    I just think we should suspend judgment on Boris until we have all the facts through an inquiry, police investigation, and parliamentary commission...then we should explode him.
    also,
    I'd like to be called Lord Poopy His Most Gloriously Excellent.

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