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[Mr.Banana]

It might also be worth reminding you (again) how a typical US 2020 election fraud case went in court

Judge: This is the case of MAGA vs. the Democrats. Counsel, are you accusing the Democrats of election fraud?

MAGA Lawyer: Yes.

Judge: Do you have any evidence there was election fraud?

MAGA Lawyer: Yes, you see here are the rules that we have to ensure fairness and prevent fraud. Now here is some evidence showing that those rules were not followed.

Judge: So the rules that prevent fraud weren't followed?

MAGA Lawyer: That's right

Judge: And how much fraud happened?

MAGA Lawyer: Well we don't know exactly. But since the rules weren't followed, there is no way to be sure the election is accurate. There is no way to present results confidently to the American people. We need the court to order recounts, audits, a special election or something like that so we can be sure we get correct election results that we can be confident in

Judge: But how many votes were bogus?

MAGA Lawyer: We don't know without an audit. it could be one, it could be 100,000 votes that were fraudulent.

Judge: Ooooooh, so you haven't proven that the results are wrong. And since you can't prove definitively that the results are wrong, I'm going to deny your request to investigate whether the results are wrong.

MAGA Lawyer: Da fuq??

Judge: Clown world court adjourned.

[Mr.Banana]

None of you probably know much, if anything, about this story. Maybe monkey does. It was big news in America but I doubt anywhere else cares.

It was maybe 2 years ago? The Houston Astros won the world series. For those in shitholecountries; The Houston Astros are a professional baseball team and the 'World Series' is the name of the league's championship match.

After some players left the team and started playing for new teams...they started talking to their new teammates. It was exposed that during the entire season, the Astros had been cheating. They had a camera in centerfield pointed right at the catcher's crotch. Catchers usually squat and hold fingers between their legs as a signal to the pitcher telling him which pitch to throw.

So the camera catches the signal, somebody relays the information to someone on the team bench. Depending on what kind of pitch was coming, he would kick a trash can, or not kick a trash can. That would signal to the batter what kind of pitch was coming.

It was proven that this happened. I don't recall the exact numbers, but the Astros' team batting average when playing at home was inconceivably better than their batting average when visiting other parks.

There was an investigation. It was proven this happened. The stats show extremely compelling evidence that it helped them win games, including the world series.

It's known and provable that it happened. Coaches and playerse were fined and/or suspended for this.

But the Astros are still champions. They still get to say they won the world series. History doesn't record an asterisk next to their entry. They won. They're champions. Period.

Yes they cheated. But you still have to run the bases, you still have to hit the ball. You still have to throw, catch, and score. Technically you can't prove that this cheating changed the outcome of the game. After all, the astros did still lose many games throughout the season where they cheated.

The exact same thing happened in the 2020 election. They cheated. It probably helped them win. And in the end it doesn't matter.

And that's because (no exaggeration), the legal standard is:
You have to prove that they cheated
You have to prove that the cheating worked.
And you have to prove that the outcome would have been different but for the cheating.

That third one is deliberately impossible to do. This has probably been true forever, but most definitely true since 2000....Courts HATE getting involved in elections.

[Poopadoop]

Judge: This is the case of MAGA vs. the Democrats. Counsel, are you accusing the Democrats of election fraud?

MAGA Lawyer: Yes.

Judge: Do you have any evidence there was election fraud?

MAGA Lawyer: Yes, you see here are the rules that we have to ensure fairness and prevent fraud. Now here is some evidence showing that those rules were not followed.

Judge: So the rules that prevent fraud weren't followed?

MAGA Lawyer: That's right

Judge: And how much fraud happened?

MAGA Lawyer: Well we don't know exactly. But since the rules weren't followed, there is no way to be sure the election is accurate. There is no way to present results confidently to the American people. We need the court to order recounts, audits, a special election or something like that so we can be sure we get correct election results that we can be confident in

Judge: But how many votes were bogus?

MAGA Lawyer: We don't know without an audit. it could be one, it could be 100,000 votes that were fraudulent.

Judge: Ooooooh, so you haven't proven that the results are wrong. And since you can't prove definitively that the results are wrong, I'm going to deny your request to investigate whether the results are wrong.

MAGA Lawyer: Da fuq??

Judge: Clown world court adjourned.

Which case was that? What state, what court, and where can we see the transcript?

Still waiting to hear what court saw the videotape you linked to earlier of suitcasesfullofballotstuffinggate btw. Anytime you're ready there Tucker.

[Mr.Banana]

Which case was that? What state, what court, and where can we see the transcript?

How about you find a transcript from any stop-the-steal case and show me how it DIDN'T go the way I just described.

Why do you doubt it anyway?

The threshold for a court to intervene in an election result is extremely high. Like...astronomically high. They aren't about to change outcomes or order do-overs. And I'm not saying they should. I hoped they would. I'm not surprised they didn't. And I'm not outraged. Big picture...I prefer the courts stay out of elections too.

Imagine this. Let's say they had video tape, with crystal clear audio. And that tape showed an election worker throwing ballots into a dumpster and lighting them on fire. Or imagine whatever egregioius and obviously criminal behavior you want to. Imagine it could be proven beyond any shadow of a doubt.

The court still won't move on the election unless you can prove, definitively, that it changed the results. You would have to know how many ballots got burned in the dumpster, and who those ballots were cast for. It's not enough to prove fraud happened. That's what the courts have been ruling in these cases.

Most people can accept that. What they can't accept, and the reason there is unrest, is that it's not enough to merely "accept that". You have to like it too. And if you don't, then you're censored, de-platformed, defunded, and deleted. And you can't even hire a lawyer to defend you.

The fact that fraud happened may not be enough to change the election results. But it IS enough to make 75 million Trump voters pissed off at the system. It is more than enough to justify peaceful protests.

It is also enough to motivate the populist movement to stay together, to show up big in the 2022 midterms, and bring a powerhouse candidate in 2024 (no idea who that might be yet). And that threatens the progressive elites and the permanent political class in washington. So now you aren't even allowed to believe your lying eyes. Your opinions are heresy and uttering them aloud is suicide.

[Mr.Banana]

there were also several cases before the election that went like this:

MAGA Lawyer: Your honor, the state election people changed the rules on how they count and verify ballots two weeks before the election. We object to the change and ask the court to restore the original rules that we've had for-fucking-ever.

Judge: What's the impact of the rule change? (e.g. not verifying signatures, separating ballots from signatures, enforcing social distancing on observers)

MAGA Lawyer: It removes the mechanisms that prevent fraud. It makes cheating possible.

Judge: Prevent? you mean no crime has happened ?

MAGA Lawyer: Well no, the election hasn't happened yet

Judge: But if nothing bad has happened, I can't fix it. Case dismissed.

MAGA Lawyer: Da fuq?

Judge: Clown world court adjourned.