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[OngBonga]

The UK's moral and legal responsibility starts when these people enter UK territory.

This is probably why we're sending boats out to stop them getting into our territorial waters.

[Poopadoop]

This is probably why we're sending boats out to stop them getting into our territorial waters.

We're not actually. They were talking about doing it, but I think it's actually impractical and/or possibly illegal to do so.

[OngBonga]

We're not actually. They were talking about doing it, but I think it's actually impractical and/or possibly illegal to do so.

Well there's plenty of evidence of boats being escorted to shore, rather than being turned away or sunk by battleships. Presumably, that's because they reached territorial waters, which, iirc, is 2 miles from the shore.

[MadMojoMonkey]

We're not actually. They were talking about doing it, but I think it's actually impractical and/or possibly illegal to do so.

I'm glad to hear that because my response to what ong suggested was to say aloud, "That's fucked up!"

[OngBonga]

I'm glad to hear that because my response to what ong suggested was to say aloud, "That's fucked up!"

On the one hand, you stop them by force. On the other hand, you create a business opportunity for people traffickers. There is no good solution. It's fucked up either way.

France have to do their bit. What they're doing is fucked up. They are basically doing fuck all because they don't want these migrants.

Poop seems to think we should be nice to France. We are nice to France. They are our allies and we have excellent trade with them. We visit their country as tourists as have good relations with their people. We even teach their language at school. The UK and France are friends. Like most friends, we bicker about things. That's normal international relations.

[Poopadoop]

France have to do their bit. What they're doing is fucked up. They are basically doing fuck all because they don't want these migrants.

The refugees are trying to get to the UK. You think France should stop them trying to do so, i.e., they should be breaking international law on our behalf. It's not a reasonable expectation.

And let's say some of them are economic migrants, and some are legitimate refugees. You expect France to sort out who is who for us? Why should they? Those people need to be allowed into the UK to have their cases heard here. It's our responsibility, not France's.

[Poopadoop]

The whole problem here is the media has convinced people like Ong and a lot of others that it's France's responsibility to deal with our immigration issues. Like France should break intn'l law to detain these people who are trying to get to the UK, either for legitimate reasons or not. That's not how border control laws work.

Next they'll be wanting to build a wall across the English channel and make France pay for it. It really is that absurd.