Quote Originally Posted by mojo
It wasn't a deliberate attempt to muddy any waters.
I know that and I tried to make it clear that the "deliberate" tag was aimed at government and media, those that have an agenda that isn't "being nice".

A refugee is free to seek their new life anywhere. Seeking isn't taking.
Well yeah, but that's no different to saying that anyone is free to apply for the job as the England football team manager.

A refugee does not have the right to asylum in any country of their choice.

And yes, of course, every person on the planet *should* have the freedom to move about as they wish
I think we fundamentally disagree here, unless we're talking about some theoretical utopia. In the real world of the present, people absolutely *should not* have total global free movement. This would be impossibly impractical. The majority of people would want to go where economic opportunities are maximised, which is basically USA. Can you guys handle 80% of the world's population? There comes a breaking point, and now everyone will want to leave to go to the next best place. One by one, the most economically successful country in the world will be destroyed by massive migration.

That's the problem with 8 billion people and global competition for resources.

In Utopia, well it's different. In the future, when we're not slaves to energy, when resources are plentiful the world over, then yeah, of course people should be able to move about freely. Sadly we don't live in this world.