Cooler of the year?

[OngBonga]

Thanks luckie and boris.

Luckie, the assumption isn't that he always plays his range the same, it's that in a range of KK+, when only 1 combo of AA is winning, then he only needs to turn his KK into a bluff 1 in 6 times, because he has it 6x more often than AA.

I'll read and try to take in boris' monster post shortly.

[Lukie]

Thanks luckie and boris.

Luckie, the assumption isn't that he always plays his range the same, it's that in a range of KK+, when only 1 combo of AA is winning, then he only needs to turn his KK into a bluff 1 in 6 times, because he has it 6x more often than AA.

I'll read and try to take in boris' monster post shortly.

People who 3b shove bluff in spots like this even 1/6 of the time have long been removed from the poker world. They either wisened up or went broke many years ago.

[BorisTheSpider]

People who 3b shove bluff in spots like this even 1/6 of the time have long been removed from the poker world. They either wisened up or went broke many years ago.

Yeah I actually do agree with this in practice. Although it's theoretically sound to make his QQ break even, since he'll always call with it once he's raised it, it doesn't matter if we make it a losing hand for him, because he'll just keep calling anyway, he's not about to exploit me by raise-folding it if I jam an unbalanced, excessively value-heavy range.

We can talk about balancing our river shoving range with some bluffs, and that is a good exercise to do in terms of thought process, but at these stakes I think expecting anyone to raise-fold a boat (any boat) on this river is pretty suicidal. Against a known capable opponent who will raise a small boat for value here then fold to a shove, it could be good, but as a population read at my stakes I'd be inclined to never bluff shove this river in practise, because I think once the river gets raised we have pretty much no fold equity ever.