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    Quote Originally Posted by seven-deuce View Post
    C'mon man, you can't compare humans to chimps we're different species.
    Excellent argument.

    Humans and chimps share a surprising 98.8 percent of their DNA.
    Or not.

    Lawsuits Could Turn Chimpanzees Into Legal Persons:
    http://news.sciencemag.org/plants-an...-legal-persons

    The litigation has been in the works since 2007, when animal rights attorney Steven Wise founded NhRP, an association of about 60 lawyers, scientists, and policy experts. The group argues that cognitively advanced animals like chimpanzees and dolphins are so self-aware that keeping them in captivity—whether a zoo or research laboratory—is tantamount to slavery. “It’s a terrible torture we inflict on them, and it has to stop,” Wise says. “And all of human law says the way things stop is when courts and legislatures recognize that the being imprisoned is a legal person.”

    NhRP spent 5 years researching the best legal strategy—and best jurisdiction—for its first cases. The upshot: a total of three lawsuits to be filed in three New York trial courts this week on behalf of four resident chimpanzees. One, named Tommy, lives in Gloversville in a “used trailer lot … isolated in a cage in a dark shed,” according to an NhRP press release. Another, Kiko, resides in a cage on private property in Niagara Falls, the group says. The final two, Hercules and Leo, are research chimps at Stony Brook University. Wise says that 11 scientists have filed affidavits in support of the group’s claims; most of them, including Jane Goodall, have worked with nonhuman primates.
    So they can have lawyers and be slaves, but we shouldn't use good analogies to compare them to people. Riiiiight.
    Last edited by spoonitnow; 12-06-2013 at 10:10 AM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by spoonitnow View Post

    Lawsuits Could Turn Chimpanzees Into Legal Persons:
    http://news.sciencemag.org/plants-an...-legal-persons
    That last 1.2% makes a helluva difference though, wouldn't you agree?

    That lawsuit is a load of crap people have been exploiting animals since forever. Dogs kept for sniffing out drugs are slaves, horses kept for racing are slaves, when does it end. If apes were legal persons they would be working in supermarkets, walking on two legs and talking in a human language. Oh yeah that's right they aren't human.

    As part of their analysis, the researchers compared the platypus genome with genomes of the human, mouse, dog, opossum and chicken. They found that the platypus shares 82 percent of its genes with these animals.
    http://esciencenews.com/articles/200...lution.mammals

    There are plenty of animals that share a significant amount of our DNA, just like the Platypus, doesn't mean they can be directly compared to humans since they don't understand what we are debating i.e they don't possess that part of the brain that allows us to think this way. It's also irrelevant to the discussion at hand. How another species operates shouldn't affect humans. We should be seeking what's best for everyone.
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