Polygamist Werewolf

[OngBonga]

Pocket me for a day.

If we mislynch from gabe/keith/boog/hoopy today, then I can't see in what world we don't lynch from that four tomorrow.

That four refers to wuf/rascal/rilla/gator

That's not very clear.

I'm stoned.

[BankItDrew]

Pocket me for a day.

If we mislynch from gabe/keith/boog/hoopy today, then I can't see in what world we don't lynch from that four tomorrow.

So what you're saying is - don't lynch any of the cross-claiming foursome and we have this in the bag. Is that right?

[BankItDrew]

Wtf stoner lol

[BankItDrew]

It's not that Drew, it's just that we aren't THAT stupid.

As a fellow WW player, I'm hopeful that you guys just fucked up beyond all recognition. This will make me very happy, in a sick sort of way.

Also, the idea of four wolves fucking up this badly AND winning - scares the fuck out of me. I'd feel very stupid for actually believing that.

[OngBonga]

They won't win. If that's who the wolves are, all they have done is bought themselves a day in the hope a sloppy vote can be seized upon. But I can't see how anyone else gets lynched if we fail today. It must be them if it's not gabe and co.

I mean it could be you guys. But monkey crumbed early, which, if wolf, would show the wolves did have the sense to pair up immediately (or were mod assigned as pairs in the first place). That crumb looked bad at first but better in retrospect. But you're unlikely to be wolves with boog/hoopy after defending gabe against boog. I mean you still could be, but this would be a messy start for the wolves. And you're pushing at the foursome of wuf, I can't see how you're wolves with any of that lot either. You'd surely leave room for backtracking over the gambit. And I know you're not wolves with me and aubrey. So I'm happy you can only be wolves with gabe/keith, which would be unfortunate for you.

This looks really clear cut to me. We lynch from one group today, and the other group tomorrow.

And we lynch gabe or keith to ensure you can't sneak a win.

The only thing that is left is for others to decide if there's any chance of me/aubrey being wolves with any pairs out there. Obviously not from our pov.

[gabe]

Gabe, in what world do you think me, wuf, rascal and rilla as wolves neglect that we need to "pair up" as the first order of business? That never happens so when you get past that the next thing to consider is that Rilla would have to be making a very weird play at a very weird spot for the wolves. That doesn't make sense either.

if you really are a villager then help us understand why you can't be a wolf.

maybe you paired up then rascal/wuf messed it up later? i dont know but the more i think about it, i realize story youre selling would never happen. a village would have to be 100% confident that the other pair were villagers to make it work. and its a spot they can never be 100% confident.

[gabe]

remember all the villaging gator did last game when he got dropped into a 2000+ post game? where was that this game? him and rilla were just laying in the cut until wuf/rascal had their issues

[GatorJH]

Is me wanting to be alive when the village wins the best thing you can come up with Gabe? Come on, you are better than that.

remember all the villaging gator did last game when he got dropped into a 2000+ post game? where was that this game? him and rilla were just laying in the cut until wuf/rascal had their issues

If I don't village hard that game i get lynched and you know it.

[wufwugy]

I don't have a life. I just have very little to contribute that hasn't already been said.

I don't believe that the 'cross claiming' was an elaborate, pre-planned, hopeful idea (hopeful in that it requires so many moving pieces to come together). I think it's more likely that the wolves made mistakes.

after this game, you're going to think that you banked on the wolves doing something much dumber than is reasonable to think.

all the evidence you need is already here. the thread behavior of pairings shows gator/wuf and rascal/rilla. if it is true that the four of us are wolves, it means that rilla posted a different partner than we had prepped for from the beginning.

as for the idea that a team of four of us seasoned vets playing so absent-mindedly that we would make a mistake substantially worse than anything ftr has seen a wolf team do, i don't really know what to say.

as for the idea that you don't want to "lose to wolves who played this badly", don't worry, you can't lose to that because it doesn't happen in the first place. this hypothetical team never fucks up the pairings. we'd need a team of like kami, bigred, and two nubs who have never played to fuck up the pairings like this.

[wufwugy]

Wuf, why did you wait for Gator to tell the true pairings rather than tell us the pairings yourself? You were getting enough heat yet you kept mum.

um because i was pretending that i wasn't paired with gator. if i wanted to join rilla on his ruse, it meant that my role was to not give the ruse away since i was the key to selling the ruse in the first place. i was happy keeping it going, because the whole point was to see how everybody would react. i figured the natural ending point was gator showing up since my lynching would kill him instead of rascal, so he would get to decide whether or not to let the lynch go through or to reveal the truth.

if gator showed up and continued the ruse (i dont know why he would, but if he did), i was ready to take it to the grave. that would probably be a bad decision, but it's just my personal preference. gator doesn't seem to be prone to looking for ways to fall on his sword.

[OngBonga]

wuf if you allowed us to lynch you as villager thinking it was you/rascal wolf pair based on your interactions, I would've put my fist through the fucking monitor.

[wufwugy]

btw hoopy is playing the wolfiest game he ever has.

think about this: on the merits of how people have played, those among gator rascal rilla wuf have played solidly villager while those among gabe boog keith hoopy have played heavily wolf.

gbkh is wolf and makes sense as to why. it would mean that people who played like they're wolves were actually wolves.

rrgw as wolf is way too good to be true. it would mean that people who didn't play like wolves ended up being wolves because of not avoiding the easiest to avoid mistake.

[wufwugy]

wuf if you allowed us to lynch you as villager thinking it was you/rascal wolf pair based on your interactions, I would've put my fist through the fucking monitor.

yeah i get to be selfish here since i knew that gator would come in and see the disaster then dispel the myth.

i most likely wouldn't have let it go through, but i certainly would have let it go longer. rascal or rilla would have said something too

sometimes it's hard to avoid the lolz, even if it's absurd.

[wufwugy]

trying to defend the rascal pairing brought me barrels of laughter

[Hoopy]

Well I'm going out now for the evening, my vote will stay on wuf.

Here's hoping this thing is over in a few hours.

[OngBonga]

It's all good. I mean it pretty much clears me of being wolves with any of the parties involved, because I'd have known. If my reaction to that isn't the most honest reaction in the fucking world, then fuck me. I mean I can be a wolf who is seizing on two derp villagers, of course, but never in a million years am I a wolf with rilla, gator, rascal or wuf, because otherwise I'd have figured something was up.

Of course, I wasn't the intended target of the reaction test, but there's a demonstration of how it can be pro-village.

[OngBonga]

think about this: on the merits of how people have played, those among gator rascal rilla wuf have played solidly villager while those among gabe boog keith hoopy have played heavily wolf..

This is definitely the critical difference in my choice of lynch for today.

[wufwugy]

Wuf (5): SMF, Keith, Boog, BID, Hoopy
Boog (1): Aubrey
Gabe (4): Wuf, Rascal, Rilla, Gator
Rascal (1): Gabe



pretty sure this is where we're at

btw, is it funny that those who think there is a wolf among rrgw should actually be lynching rilla instead of me since it was rilla who claimed the wrong partner, meaning that if we're ever w/w and v/v, the w/w is more likely rilla/rascal than gator/wuf?

this is up to ong bid aubrey and smf

also the lynch today is a little more important than it seems, regardless of how much i like the idea of being lynched first so that i can dead thread lolz. what i mean is that the wolves actually have outs if gator and i die because they can still point the finger at rilla and rascal, which would be enticing to some of the villagers who really do not want to feel like they're getting tricked. for the village to win in that situation would require virtual total unity in killing one of gbkh among bid, smf, ong, and aubrey.

[gabe]

Wuf (5): SMF, Keith, Boog, BID, Hoopy
Boog (1): Aubrey
Gabe (4): Wuf, Rascal, Rilla, Gator
Rascal (1): Gabe



pretty sure this is where we're at

btw, is it funny that those who think there is a wolf among rrgw should actually be lynching rilla instead of me since it was rilla who claimed the wrong partner, meaning that if we're ever w/w and v/v, the w/w is more likely rilla/rascal than gator/wuf?

this is up to ong bid aubrey and smf

also the lynch today is a little more important than it seems, regardless of how much i like the idea of being lynched first so that i can dead thread lolz. what i mean is that the wolves actually have outs if gator and i die because they can still point the finger at rilla and rascal, which would be enticing to some of the villagers who really do not want to feel like they're getting tricked. for the village to win in that situation would require virtual total unity in killing one of gbkh among bid, smf, ong, and aubrey.

its impossible for you 4 to be wwvv. its crazy that you are even trying to push this idea in our heads

rescind and lynch wuf

[OngBonga]

lynch gabe

[gabe]

theres only one possible wolf team. if hoopy/boog were wolves theres no one left for them to be with unless its smf/bid which seems hard

[gabe]

lynch gabe

what do you disagree with? in like 25 min ill be in thread for rest of the day

[wufwugy]

what a game to be missing baud. he's like the perfect player to have at this time

[gabe]

wuf just made another blatantly contrived post

"what i mean is that the wolves actually have outs if gator and i die because they can still point the finger at rilla and rascal, which would be enticing to some of the villagers who really do not want to feel like they're getting tricked."

does any non wolf actually think this? the village knows the 4some is never wwvv

[OngBonga]

what do you disagree with? in like 25 min ill be in thread for rest of the day

It's pretty much a coin flip, and we have two lynches to get it right. If you're a villager, then you know we're lynching wolves tomorrow, right?

[wufwugy]

wuf just made another blatantly contrived post

"what i mean is that the wolves actually have outs if gator and i die because they can still point the finger at rilla and rascal, which would be enticing to some of the villagers who really do not want to feel like they're getting tricked."

does any non wolf actually think this? the village knows the 4some is never wwvv

*i* don't even know that rilla and rascal aren't wolves. ofc i dont think they are because if i gave it any decent amount of likelyhood i wouldn't have played along with rilla's gator claim.

it's funny that you say that villagers don't think it's possible for ww/vv among us. ong clearly has his villager cap on since he's entertaining all reasonable possibilities. but gbkh? it's all just narrow-minded focus on one set of things that keeps gbkh alive.

[wufwugy]

forum being slow. no likey

[GatorJH]

Gabe, if you lynch wuf today and find out he and I are villagers who are you lynching tomorrow and why?

[gabe]

It's pretty much a coin flip, and we have two lynches to get it right. If you're a villager, then you know we're lynching wolves tomorrow, right?

i am sure its not a coinflip. we can likely win now instead of me dying and the village risking you guys botching this

not to mention i've been going hard all game long yet lurkergator asks you to spare him and he gets it

*i* don't even know that rilla and rascal aren't wolves. ofc i dont think they are because if i gave it any decent amount of likelyhood i wouldn't have played along with rilla's gator claim.

it's funny that you say that villagers don't think it's possible for ww/vv among us. ong clearly has his villager cap on since he's entertaining all reasonable possibilities. but gbkh? it's all just narrow-minded focus on one set of things that keeps gbkh alive.

dont try to buddy with ong in this way. you guys being ww/vv is NOT a reasonable possibility. think about it. anyone reading this should think about this independently and youll realize wuf is full of hot air

[gabe]

the 4some story is so much more likely to be wolves in circles than elaborate genius. combine this with the posting habits of all of them and its practically air tight wolf case

i've been trying to piece together the village solution all game. i stand by all my posts and thoughts, which is something the 4some cant say

[OngBonga]

No you're right, it's not a coinflip. I'm leaning in your direction because between the four of you, you're wolfier. I can see the village motivation in what rilla did, and it's consistent with wuf's posturing while I went into meltdown tearing apart wuf and rascal's posts. Granted, if they're wolves then gator has basically given them hope of surviving the day, which would be worth a pat on the back, but they still won't win.

But this is also besides the point, because they're not the wolves. At least I don't think so. My mind is made up gabe, you'd do better to focus your attention on my partner. Her vote is yet to be made.

[gabe]

Gabe, if you lynch wuf today and find out he and I are villagers who are you lynching tomorrow and why?

the two possible (and unlikely) teams are boog/hoopy/smf/bid or smf/bid/ong/aubrey. the first one is much more likely but i think both are pretty remote. this 4some claim craziness is just too fancy to make sense

[gabe]

No you're right, it's not a coinflip. I'm leaning in your direction because between the four of you, you're wolfier. I can see the village motivation in what rilla did, and it's consistent with wuf's posturing while I went into meltdown tearing apart wuf and rascal's posts. Granted, if they're wolves then gator has basically given them hope of surviving the day, which would be worth a pat on the back, but they still won't win.

But this is also besides the point, because they're not the wolves. At least I don't think so. My mind is made up gabe, you'd do better to focus your attention on my partner. Her vote is yet to be made.

regardless how bad you read me, you should realize their story is the ultimate wolf construction. i cant be a wolf and do all these posts. reread the thread

[gabe]

id offer you a cheeba chew to do a genuine reread but i think baudib told me thats against the spirit of the game

[OngBonga]

All this talk of cheeba has reminded me of a great tune I nearly forgot existed.

[a500lbgorilla]

I think the wolves are gabe, boog, keith, and hoopy.

[OngBonga]

I think the wolves are gabe, boog, keith, and hoopy.

This is certainly what it looks like to me. I sense a great deal more enthusiasm from your lot, and a great deal more desperation from the gabe camp.

I mean if you lot are the wolves, you know you lose tomorrow. It's already a lost cause. It doesn't feel like you, rascal and wuf are chasing a lost cause.

It does with gabe.

[BooG690]

It's amazing that every "villager" of Gator, Rascal and Wuf were on the same page with Rilla's play. As a villager, I would've been confused as fuck.

[OngBonga]

I would've been confused. But I'd have gone along with it in the short term, because my initial thought would be too crazy for a wolf.

[JKDS]

Good Morning

VOTE COUNT

Wuf (6): SMF, Keith, Boog, BID, Hoopy, Gabe
Gabe (5): Wuf, Rascal, Gator, Rilla , Ong
Boog (1): Aubrey

There is 26min left in the day, ends on the hour! (00 good, 01 bad)

[a500lbgorilla]

Catch you cats on the flipside.

[OngBonga]

26 mins left? Well I guess wuf is gonna go, because the wolves aren't shifting, and monkey/aubrey aren't here.

[a500lbgorilla]

For once I would REALLY like to be alive when the village wins so could we please start with the gabe Hoopy Keith Boog group?

Sorry, my man.

I blame BID, personally.

[OngBonga]

drew be a hero

[gabe]

ong says so much wrong stuff its hard to argue with all of it. its exhausting

if smf/bid were wolves that would be pretty tilting. SMF gets cleared in a dumb way then hangs out in the den the rest of the game possibly

[BankItDrew]

So much love. So little BiD to go around.

[OngBonga]

In 18 minutes we'll find out if I'm wrong.

incoming village flip imo.

[OngBonga]

drew you could literally clear yourself by changing your vote.

[OngBonga]

No way would you vote for gabe if he's a wolf, and no way would you be parked on wuf if he's a wolf.

Change your vote and keep it there, and we're always winning tomorrow.

If you're a villager, of course.

[BankItDrew]

drew you could literally clear yourself by changing your vote.

So if I switch to gabe and he flips villager, I could possibly clear myself?

I'd rather try to win right now.

[OngBonga]

So if I switch to gabe and he flips villager, I could possibly clear myself?

I'd rather try to win right now.

Yeah because that heavily implies that wuf, your current vote, is a wolf.

I'd fucking hard clear you 100% if you vote gabe.

[OngBonga]

If you don't, then we're always lynching gabe/keith tomorrow because the risk of drew/gabe is too high.

[BankItDrew]

Dude, I don't believe the cross-pairing scheme. At all.

[OngBonga]

I'd rather try to win right now.

How can you know which is winning right now? I think lynching gabe wins right now. But I might be wrong. That's why I want to hard clear you.

[BankItDrew]

How can you know which is winning right now? I think lynching gabe wins right now. But I might be wrong. That's why I want to hard clear you.

I don't know who the wolves are.

You, otoh, are saying that if I lynch gabe, I'll be a lock villager tomorrow.

How do you know gabe will flip villager?

[OngBonga]

I don't know who the wolves are.

You, otoh, are saying that if I lynch gabe, I'll be a lock villager tomorrow.

How do you know gabe will flip villager?

I don't think he will flip villager. But if he did, well you'd be confirmed not wolf with wuf, because that's where your vote is right now with 5 mins left. And wuf would be near confirmed wolf.

[BankItDrew]

I feel like I'm being railroaded.

I'm staying course.

[OngBonga]

It's gabe/keith/drew/monkey

lynch gabe/keith tomorrow

[JKDS]

DAY END, NO POSTING

VOTE COUNT

Wuf (6): SMF, Keith, Boog, BID, hoopy, gabe
Gabe (5): Wuf, Rascal, gator, rilla , ong
Boog (1): Aubrey

ALLOWING 5 MIN FOR CORRECTIONS

[JKDS]

COUNT IS LEGIT

WUFWUGY HAS BEEN LYNCHED!!!

Wufwugy was a...

[JKDS]

...

[JKDS]

....

[JKDS]

VILLAGER

His partner was... Gator!

[JKDS]

The village of [noun]

Current List (10)

BID
Lilrascal
Keith
Gabe
Ongbonga
Rilla
Hoopy
Boog
Supermonkeyface
aubrey

3 Pairs of 2 Villagers
1 Group of 4 Wolves

Deceased
Wufwugy, lynched day 1
Gator, suicides day 1

With 10 alive, it takes 6 to lynch. 72 hours until day end, 1 48hr extension available.

Thread open, GO GO GO

[OngBonga]

So then drew. What now? You gonna join me in lynching gabe? Or you gonna turn on me?

[gabe]

lynch boog

Ong has attacked enough people that he can't be a wolf. So the smf bid Aubrey ong team doesn't work and definitely not boog hoopy ong Aubrey. It must be boog hoopy smf bud. Back to computer soon to pick at this

[gabe]

Ong did you reread any of the thread ? Please do with the updated context in mind. I'm village

[OngBonga]

Why boog? Who is the rest of his team?

I'm not reading the thread now, it's getting late. I'll read tomorrow. That said, I'm not in any hurry to spew my vote out on such a critical day.

[OngBonga]

I mean it's not like you've read the thread with new info in mind, is it gabe?

Unless you're Number Johnny 5.

[BankItDrew]

So then drew. What now? You gonna join me in lynching gabe? Or you gonna turn on me?

Idk man

I read you as a villager from the beginning.

No way in hell am I gonna slap my vote on someone right away.

I'm gonna watch Sunday football and think about it.

[OngBonga]

gabe has just been proven wrong, but instead of thinking "oh fuck" and then reading the thread, he just ploughs a vote on boog.

gabe villager is NEVER this careless. He knew he was voting for boog before wuf even flipped.

[OngBonga]

Note that he's also encouraging me to read the thread.

I mean cmon.

If we let gabe live today, then holy fucking shit this village sucks.

[BankItDrew]

lynch boog

Ong has attacked enough people that he can't be a wolf. So the smf bid Aubrey ong team doesn't work and definitely not boog hoopy ong Aubrey. It must be boog hoopy smf bud. Back to computer soon to pick at this

I'd like to hear you elaborate on this. It would help tremendously.

I was initially skeptical of boog on D1 but I later assumed it was because I always am skeptical of boog.

I'd also like to know what the current feel is on the cross-claim thing now. Is that 100% v/v/v/v now? Is v/v/w/w an option? That would be funny as shit.

Okay. sunday football.

[gabe]

gabe has just been proven wrong, but instead of thinking "oh fuck" and then reading the thread, he just ploughs a vote on boog.

gabe villager is NEVER this careless. He knew he was voting for boog before wuf even flipped.

that lynch cleared gator and rilla. thats obvious

i'm not a wolf. thats obvious (to me)

boog/hoopy is the only hot team. thats obvious to everyone

my post was just based on obvious things

[gabe]

ive been villaging all game. the way i show this is to keep villaging