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    Quote Originally Posted by chardrian View Post
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    his lawsuit doesn't get kicked simply because he got arrested for a new crime. If the suit is valid, he wins damages no matter what.
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    He cashed out for 400k to fund his defense
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    Quote Originally Posted by a500lbgorilla View Post
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    He cashed out for 400k to fund his defense
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    but his lawsuit was still not a reason for the cops to try to transfer guilt onto Steven. No one would have any idea whether or not he would settle his case.
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    Quote Originally Posted by chardrian View Post
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    but his lawsuit was still not a reason for the cops to try to transfer guilt onto Steven. No one would have any idea whether or not he would settle his case.
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    Doesn't seem like much of a prediction that he'd start needing money real fast
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    Quote Originally Posted by a500lbgorilla View Post
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    Doesn't seem like much of a prediction that he'd start needing money real fast
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    I still think that's a stretch - you are giving way too much credit of ingenuity and deviousness to the cops. Let's pin a crime on Steven so that he has to settle his lawsuit just isn't a huge likelihood imo.
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    Quote Originally Posted by chardrian View Post
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    I still think that's a stretch - you are giving way too much credit of ingenuity and deviousness to the cops. Let's pin a crime on Steven so that he has to settle his lawsuit just isn't a huge likelihood imo.
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    It's not a stretch at all. They could not pay 36 million dollars. You'd brainstorm some solutions out of that spot if you found yourself in it.

    It's also pretty clear that the reputation of law enforcement is integral to the entire system. No one was willing to see LE admit guilt or be found guilty, especially not to Steve Avery.
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    Quote Originally Posted by a500lbgorilla View Post
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    It's not a stretch at all. They could not pay 36 million dollars. You'd brainstorm some solutions out of that spot if you found yourself in it.

    It's also pretty clear that the reputation of law enforcement is integral to the entire system. No one was willing to see LE admit guilt or be found guilty, especially not to Steve Avery.
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    the fact that he was suing for 36 million doesn't mean that that is what he was automatically going to receive. That is just his attorneys' way of proclaiming that the defendants to the lawsuit fucked up big time. If the case ever made it to trial it would be the jury that would determine what, if any, damages to award. If his attorneys were so convinced that it was a multimillion dollar case then they just would have loaned him $ for his criminal defense and proceeded with the lawsuit on a contingency fee basis. His attorneys were working on a 40% contingency. Even a one million dollar verdict would have netted the attorneys 250% more than they made settling for 400k.

    However, one fact which hasn't come up and I am surprised it hasn't is that the attorneys who are representing the law enforcement and D.A.s at the depositions that are being shown are attorneys from the Wisconsin DOJ (the AGs office). So there was a clear conflict within the DOJ in the report clearing law enforcement of criminal wrongdoing because it is the DOJ's job to defend these same people in civil lawsuits.
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    Quote Originally Posted by chardrian View Post
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    the fact that he was suing for 36 million doesn't mean that that is what he was automatically going to receive. That is just his attorneys' way of proclaiming that the defendants to the lawsuit fucked up big time. If the case ever made it to trial it would be the jury that would determine what, if any, damages to award. If his attorneys were so convinced that it was a multimillion dollar case then they just would have loaned him $ for his criminal defense and proceeded with the lawsuit on a contingency fee basis. His attorneys were working on a 40% contingency. Even a one million dollar verdict would have netted the attorneys 250% more than they made settling for 400k.

    However, one fact which hasn't come up and I am surprised it hasn't is that the attorneys who are representing the law enforcement and D.A.s at the depositions that are being shown are attorneys from the Wisconsin DOJ (the AGs office). So there was a clear conflict within the DOJ in the report clearing law enforcement of criminal wrongdoing because it is the DOJ's job to defend these same people in civil lawsuits.
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    So why didn't this happen?
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