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    Quote Originally Posted by OngBonga View Post
    You get what you morally deserve by working hard for it, at least in this country anyway.
    Bullshit. The Queen never did a hard day's work in her life and she lives in a palace.


    Quote Originally Posted by OngBonga View Post
    He had to work really fucking hard to get where he got, ridiculously hard because the competition is enormous.
    You just ignored the whole premise of the argument. They both worked equally really fucking hard at it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Poopadoop View Post
    You just ignored the whole premise of the argument. They both worked equally really fucking hard at it.
    Equality in effort does not mean equality in what's earned or what's deserved. The left does not understand this, largely because of the epidemic of participation trophies and the related victim mentality.

    To kick this over to the Christianity thread, this is also at the core of the Cain and Abel story. Cain perceives that he has put up equal effort but does not get equal result, so he lashes outward instead of looking inward.
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    They both worked equally really fucking hard at it.
    Sure they did. I'm sure the accountant was practising sums in his spare time through his entire childhood. I'm sure he is as fit.

    The accountant went to uni and was pretty much guaranteed a job because someone is always hiring an accountant.

    The footballer was practising from an early age, all the time, more so than your average kid who just has a kickabout now and then. If he's really serious when he gets in his teens, he'll have to ensure he's fit enough, so he'll have to go for a jog every day, make sure he doesn't smoke, less parties... the accountant can get as drunk as he likes at the weekend.

    You think being a footballer is as easy as being an accountant?

    That's why it's fair.

    As for the queen, so she has a palace. What do you care? She earns it by being gawped at by millions of people and not being able to have a normal life. You think that's an easy life just because you don't ever have to worry about running out of bog roll? I wouldn't swap lives with her for shit.
    Quote Originally Posted by wufwugy View Post
    ongies gonna ong
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    Quote Originally Posted by OngBonga View Post
    Sure they did. I'm sure the accountant was practising sums in his spare time through his entire childhood. I'm sure he is as fit.

    The accountant went to uni and was pretty much guaranteed a job because someone is always hiring an accountant.

    The footballer was practising from an early age, all the time, more so than your average kid who just has a kickabout now and then. If he's really serious when he gets in his teens, he'll have to ensure he's fit enough, so he'll have to go for a jog every day, make sure he doesn't smoke, less parties... the accountant can get as drunk as he likes at the weekend.

    You think being a footballer is as easy as being an accountant?

    That's why it's fair.
    Go back to my first post about A and B and read the chain of posts again. You're not even on the same page here.



    Quote Originally Posted by OngBonga View Post
    As for the queen, so she has a palace. What do you care? She earns it by being gawped at by millions of people and not being able to have a normal life. You think that's an easy life just because you don't ever have to worry about running out of bog roll? I wouldn't swap lives with her for shit.
    Ok, how about someone who inherits a fortune without the strings attached? You think they earned that?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Poopadoop View Post
    Ok, how about someone who inherits a fortune without the strings attached? You think they earned that?
    In a way they did*, but this also shows why it's folly to attempt to organize "earns" and "deserves" by force.

    *By being preferred inheritor by the other person who "earned" it. Indeed there likely wouldn't be inheritance except that the person who "earned" it first, whatever that even means, preferred to give it as inheritance.
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    Go back to my first post about A and B and read the chain of posts again. You're not even on the same page here.
    Nah, I'll just let you win.
    Quote Originally Posted by wufwugy View Post
    ongies gonna ong
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    If I want to give all my money to a homeless guy, that's my call, right?

    What if I want to give my $100m estate to my son? Why is that a problem?
    Quote Originally Posted by wufwugy View Post
    ongies gonna ong

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