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    Ok, how about someone who inherits a fortune without the strings attached? You think they earned that?
    Sure, his Dad earned it and his Dad has the right to do what he likes with his own hard earned shit.
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    Sure, his Dad earned it and his Dad has the right to do what he likes with his own hard earned shit.
    So everyone gets what they deserve then in your eyes. The guy who makes £300k as a university chancellor deserves 10x as much as the accountant making £30k?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Poopadoop View Post
    So everyone gets what they deserve then in your eyes. The guy who makes £300k as a university chancellor deserves 10x as much as the accountant making £30k?
    If wufwugy is willing to pay me $25 to mow his yard, and I mow their yard for that amount, then I deserve that amount.

    If wufwugy is willing to pay you $250 to paint his porch, and you paint his porch for that amount, then you deserve that amount.

    The guy who makes $250 as a porch painter deserves 10x as much as the yard mower making $25?
    Yes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Poopadoop View Post
    So everyone gets what they deserve then in your eyes. The guy who makes £300k as a university chancellor deserves 10x as much as the accountant making £30k?
    If that's how much they're getting paid, if that's how the system is working, then yes, it's fair. Or at least, as fair as it can be.

    You and I both know it's ridiculous how much money a footballer gets paid, but it's the way it is. What you going to do? Cry about it? I stopped going to football matches long ago.

    I don't give a fuck how much anyone else earns, or where they live. I care about me. Do I like where I live? No. Am I doing something about it? Yes. Will I like where I'm going to be in two weeks time? Yes. That's my life sorted. Fuck everyone else.
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    Quote Originally Posted by OngBonga View Post
    Fuck everyone else.
    Not to be glib, but that seems to be the difference between capitalism and socialism in a nutshell right there. The capitalist is individualistic and the socialist is group-oriented. The former is Darwinian in their outlook on wealth whereas the latter treats their country as you would a family that shares resources, rather than just a bunch of strangers that all live in one place and hoard their own goodies.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Poopadoop View Post
    Not to be glib, but that seems to be the difference between capitalism and socialism in a nutshell right there.
    Yep. One is based on cold, hard, natural fact, while the other is based on naive delusion.
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    Quote Originally Posted by OngBonga View Post
    Yep. One is based on cold, hard, natural fact, while the other is based on naive delusion.
    So then I assume you classify Scandinavia, Japan, UK, etc., as capitalist and not socialist countries?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Poopadoop View Post
    So then I assume you classify Scandinavia, Japan, UK, etc., as capitalist and not socialist countries?
    Well ask yourself a question... can you set up a business-for-profit, and employ people to work for you, in these countries? If so, there's a healthy dose of capitalism going on there which means any "socialism" going on is the kind that is actually of benefit to business, such as free health and education.
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