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    Quote Originally Posted by MadMojoMonkey View Post
    It's a fluff piece based on sensationalism and exactly nothing will come of it.

    You're right that if anything comes of this it will be a complete perversion of justice.
    It could well be different if we weren't talking about POTUS, but we are.
    Which is why nothing will ever come of this.
    Aren't you at least a little curious how a supposedly credible and independent media giant can become so corrupt?

    I mean, they didn't used to be so overtly biased and manipulative. There was a time when ethics mattered.

    We're not in that time anymore. Doesn't that trigger your scientific mind to ask "why"?

    Maybe something happened. And maybe when it did someone asked what the fuck happened. And then that someone was told "don't be sensational, nothing will come of this"

    And now here we are.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BananaStand View Post
    Aren't you at least a little curious how a supposedly credible and independent media giant can become so corrupt?
    They've always had their own agenda. Every mind has bias. If they duped anyone into believing otherwise, that's on the duped to figure out, not me.
    It's not news that power corrupts. If the people watching the news aren't doing any of their own research to corroborate the news, and they believe the news like it's facts disseminated from an unbiased source, then lol obv. the news agencies have been given immense power by that.

    Quote Originally Posted by BananaStand View Post
    I mean, they didn't used to be so overtly biased and manipulative. There was a time when ethics mattered.
    When was that, again?
    the 90's? No.
    80's? No.
    70's? No.
    60's? No.
    etc.

    Quote Originally Posted by BananaStand View Post
    We're not in that time anymore. Doesn't that trigger your scientific mind to ask "why"?
    No. Accepting that power corrupts and noting that ignorance and laziness has ceded disproportionate power to certain agencies is enough explanation to me.
    I don't see any point in presuming that the most likely answer is not the actual answer in this case.

    Quote Originally Posted by BananaStand View Post
    Maybe something happened. And maybe when it did someone asked what the fuck happened. And then that someone was told "don't be sensational, nothing will come of this"

    And now here we are.
    Maybe when there are consequences which are unjust we can continue this topic. Until then, there are myriad dipshit voices in the media proclaiming all sorts of nonsense, and I'm happy to ignore all of them as inconsequential noise until proven otherwise.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MadMojoMonkey View Post
    They've always had their own agenda.
    You really have to be smarter than this. When the media consisted of just basically 3 TV networks and local newspapers, the agenda was to get people watching and sell ads. They did that by giving people what they wanted. Back then, people wanted the news. So the agenda was to given them the news. Now, people want to be stroked inside of an echo chamber. So, the agenda is bring them inside an echo chamber and stroke them.

    Equating the two by saying "they've always had their own agenda" is ostrich-ism at it's worst. The methodology matters.

    Every mind has bias, If they duped anyone into believing otherwise, that's on the duped to figure out, not me.
    So? Feeding that bias, and manipulating it for your own profit-motivated purposes, and disguising it as journalism is completely unethical. You seem to be saying that there should be no consequence for that because the victims aren't smart enough to figure it out. By your logic Bernie Madoff is totally fine, right? People who invested money with him should have been smarter right?

    It's not news that power corrupts. If the people watching the news aren't doing any of their own research to corroborate the news, and they believe the news like it's facts disseminated from an unbiased source, then lol obv. the news agencies have been given immense power by that.
    Was that power given willingly? Why do you seem to believe that it's ok to abuse that power?

    Do the students you teach independently corroborate everything in your curriculum before accepting your lessons as being accurate? Or do they extend a certain degree of trust because of your position and your credentials? What should happen if you violate that trust.

    When was that, again?
    Before we invaded Iraq. That seems to be the moment when the liberal media snapped.

    No. Accepting that power corrupts and noting that ignorance and laziness has ceded disproportionate power to certain agencies is enough explanation to me.
    Ok. That's enough explanation for me too. But now what? Does the ignorance and laziness bother you? Can anything be done about it? Does corruption bother you? Can anything be done about it?

    It's like you recognize the problem, but your solution is "fuck it, just let it get worse until it's bad enough for me to care, and I'll deal with it then". LOL That's like saying "I'm not gonna brush my teeth, because they don't hurt". How do you feel about people who say "Just forget climate change for now, keep polluting as much as you want until the problem gets bad enough to affect me personally"

    Maybe when there are consequences which are unjust we can continue this topic. Until then, there are myriad dipshit voices in the media proclaiming all sorts of nonsense, and I'm happy to ignore all of them as inconsequential noise until proven otherwise.
    What kind of unjust consequences might those be? Like ...oh...maybe....the opening of a special prosecutor investigation into a President elect?

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