*** OFFICIAL BREXIT SUNLIT UPLANDS and #MEGA THREAD ***

[OngBonga]

Take S. Korea,

South Korea and Japan are probably the two greatest countries in the world when it comes to the structure of their society. They already wore face masks in public, they have a greater sense of responsibility, they are far superior to us when it comes to society. It doesn't surprise me they fared well.

This is why I don't think it's so simple as you think. The British people are fucking morons. There really is no other way of saying it. We did this to ourselves. Blame the idiots who need spoon feeding because they lack any common sense.

I don't think I once watched any government broadcasts or followed any guidelines. I just used my common sense. There's a fucking virus. Cover your face and keep your distance. Don't go to parties. Don't sneeze on the bread in Tesco. Don't fuck pangolins. The problem is the there are so many idiots in this country that it doesn't matter if we have Albert Einstein for PM and Florence Nightingale for Health Secretary, we're still a nation of idiots. People will still go to parties. People still think they can for a drive to the seaside. We're not the same people that got us through wartime. We're far too self entitled now. South Korea doesn't have that problem.

This probably outweighs density. The social behaviour of the population. If all was equal, density would be the dominant factor.

Attitude of pop: This has to start from the top. In the first lockdown last spring, if you went out the streets were virtually deserted. In the last two, there's suddenly a lot more people out and about. Wtf are they all doing? There's nowhere they can legally go besides the supermarket ffs. Maybe a few are going to the dentist, but half the population? Fuck off.

This comes back to my point above. If you have a population of morons, then morons will get into positions of power. Thatcher was probably the last PM we had that wasn't a moron, and she still managed to piss a lot of people off. Hoping for better quality leaders is futile.

The health system is for keeping people alive once they get it, not so much for containing the spread.

It's an important factor in per capita death rates, which is the ultimate measure of a country's success. Once ICU capacity is at 100%, it gets much worse very quickly.

Sure, but apparently they can get away with it because they're just as popular as in 2019.

Population of morons.

I think you mean "would have done better."

Good correction.

The EU also had a factory that had to be shut down. Don't think that's their fault that happened.

Best I could tell they had two factories. We have four.

And in that respect, our gov't has done pretty poorly, even compared to other places in the West.

I blame the population for that as a collective society. We put these people into power, and behave like idiots. We get what we deserve.

Anyway, #MEGA and #sovereignty.

[Poopadoop]

The British people are fucking morons.

This is pretty much the gist of this post, and I think it is this attitude that lets the gov't get away with being so incompetent and corrupt.

The truth is, the % of people in the UK who are morons is no different than in any other part of the world. There is no case to be made for British exceptionalism here.

Further, you're right that many Asian countries have a more collective culture compared to the West where the culture is more individualistic. However, both AUS and NZ have western cultures and they managed to contain the virus very well, for reasons I explained in a previous post.

Finally, the vast majority of people here as elsewhere are not morons who just do what they want and don't give a shit about the rest of society, but they ARE sheep. Most of those sheeple follow the example and guidelines set by their leaders. That's where it makes a big difference whether the gov't is giving clear advice and behaving consistently with it themselves, or whether they're taking the piss.

When the rules are clear and the gov't itself consistent, the people are willing to play along. Hence the response during the first lockdown where hardly anyone left their house. But when the gov't is taking the piss, even the sheeple stop respecting their rules.

The real genius of the gov't here is in convincing a large number of people that it's the public's fault because the public are a bunch of morons and douchebags. The fact is, those people were only following the gov'ts lead insofar as they could figure out what it was, and only stopped following it when it became remarkably inconsistent and hypocritical.