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 Originally Posted by acg123
ok so where does the line get drawn of whether it is even profitable to open certain hands because if you get 3bet you have to fold? or then do you think that if you cant 4bet the hand then you shouldn't even be opening with it? what percentage of hands can we actually fold before we start losing money just by opening the action? I don't know if im wording my question right.
an example answer is " we can open x% of hands UTG and fold X% of that range and still be profitable
Well that depends how much you're getting 3bet. If people even notice that you're playing a 4bet or fold strategy (which is doubtful), then they start 3betting you with a wider range, then your 4bet value range can widen, and you can get it in with more hands, so it shouldn't greatly affect your UTG opening range - if someone is 3betting you like a monkey, you can probably be willing to stack off with at least the top half of it, if not more. (Provided that your UTG range is strong enough, and doesn't consist of like 15% of hands).
The main point though is that any concern that someone is going to exploit a 4bet-or-fold tendency pales into total insignificance compared with the money you'll bleed playing 3bet pots OOP.
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