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    My problem with debate is that its geared towards winning. Not truth. Since I'm not representing someone in these discussions, it doesn't benefit me to take such a stance.

    It also doesnt seem well suited for questions that have multiple correct answers. For these discussions, I'm interested in expanding my understanding of the subject matter, and learning what others have to say about it. But if someone's views on an ambiguous topic are too concrete and self-assured, like in a debate, I cannot take them seriously. It'd be like if someone fervently defended life on other planets, discredited any evidence to the contrary, and interpreted any positive evidence in a rosy way. At that point, discussion ceases as it isnt worthwhile to continue.

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    I encourage you to have debates though. I'd just prefer you warn us in advance. I assume, by default, that we're just discussing our views on this forum, and not strictly adhering to any particular viewpoint. If the presumption for a particular thread is instead that we are debating and purposefully sticking to a side, that assumption vanishes and I can treat the thread and argument in a different way...without criticizing techniques that are perfectly valid in the debate setting.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JKDS View Post
    It also doesnt seem well suited for questions that have multiple correct answers. For these discussions, I'm interested in expanding my understanding of the subject matter, and learning what others have to say about it. But if someone's views on an ambiguous topic are too concrete and self-assured, like in a debate, I cannot take them seriously. It'd be like if someone fervently defended life on other planets, discredited any evidence to the contrary, and interpreted any positive evidence in a rosy way. At that point, discussion ceases as it isnt worthwhile to continue.
    Do you have an idea of a better way to do it?

    FWIW, I would view somebody who did as in your example -- ignoring evidence -- to be losing the debate.

    I encourage you to have debates though. I'd just prefer you warn us in advance. I assume, by default, that we're just discussing our views on this forum, and not strictly adhering to any particular viewpoint. If the presumption for a particular thread is instead that we are debating and purposefully sticking to a side, that assumption vanishes and I can treat the thread and argument in a different way...without criticizing techniques that are perfectly valid in the debate setting.
    I'll keep this in mind. It's definitely true.

    On a side note, I think it's accurate to say that my FTR persona is an extreme version of myself. I seldom debate anything outside of here and this is the only forum that I've been a part of over the years where I heavily gravitate towards debate. It's weird how these things develop.

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